Bobby Knight resigns

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

IF you had a son , would you let him play ball for BK? i'll say i'm not a big BK fan but i would want my kid to play for him.

I absolutely agree. Not many bad apples that fell from that tree. Who wouldn't send their son there where you know he will learn to play basketball while graduating and becoming a man?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I absolutely agree. Not many bad apples that fell from that tree. Who wouldn't send their son there where you know he will learn to play basketball while graduating and becoming a man?

I don't know..I don't disagree with the results, but I'm not sure I'd want to subject my son to the journey getting there. There are a lot of coaches, both known and unknown, that can get the same results without the humiliation, berating and intimidation that BK can't avoid.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I don't know..I don't disagree with the results, but I'm not sure I'd want to subject my son to the journey getting there. There are a lot of coaches, both known and unknown, that can get the same results without the humiliation, berating and intimidation that BK can't avoid.

That is all overstated by a few things that became public. I was a Bobby Knight hater until I read "A Season on the Brink" and realized how much he cares about those kids and how all of the "negative" stuff he does is truly for a positive reason. There are so many coaches out there in college basketball that will allow the kids to do whatever they want and aren't really there to coach them or to make them men. It is that combined with the same attitudes in the AAU programs that have led to the NBA becoming a virtually unwatchable brand of basketball.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

That is all overstated by a few things that became public. I was a Bobby Knight hater until I read "A Season on the Brink" and realized how much he cares about those kids and how all of the "negative" stuff he does is truly for a positive reason. There are so many coaches out there in college basketball that will allow the kids to do whatever they want and aren't really there to coach them or to make them men. It is that combined with the same attitudes in the AAU programs that have led to the NBA becoming a virtually unwatchable brand of basketball.

I agree with you on that point 100%.

..and I don't doubt that he cares for his kids and it's his version of tough love

but, still not sure he'd by my choice as my son's coach, although I wouldn't say you were wrong if he was yours.

There..I have succesfully avoided taking a true side here

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I agree with you on that point 100%.

..and I don't doubt that he cares for his kids and it's his version of tough love

but, still not sure he'd by my choice as my son's coach, although I wouldn't say you were wrong if he was yours.

There..I have succesfully avoided taking a true side here

Well I guess ultimately it would come down to what my son wanted. If he wanted to go play for Bobby Knight though I would have no problem giving him my support on that. If he wanted to go play for Jim Harrick we might have to have a long talk.

Things he has already admitted:
His temper required him to dominate
weaker personalities. In some cases
this is exactly what the kid needed.
But much of it had to do with his temper.
His need to be in complete control.

He was/is an incredibly charitable man.
He gave his complete salary back one
season when he thought he did a horrible
job. He helped out tons of kids financially
after they were out of school. He has a
good heart. He just cant control his ego/
temper.

It really is sad. I love the way his teams
play basketball. But I would never want
a kid of mine on his team. And I have a kid
who plays bball. And has played for demanding
coaches. But never would I send her to the
female equivalent of Knight. It is not worth it.

Is it possible that a dad, instead
of a coach, can act as a good father
figure and teach his son to become a
man. Why does one need a coach to do it?

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Is it possible that a dad, instead
of a coach, can act as a good father
figure and teach his son to become a
man. Why does one need a coach to do it?

I just answered the original question. It was easy to do because I don't have a son and I have no chance of having one in the future.

One can be a good father and teach his son to become a man. Sometimes the job isn't complete by the time your son leaves your home to go to college at 18 years old. Maybe he has not quite become that man that you were trying to teach him to be, if so, it wouldn't hurt to hand him off to someone you know will watch out for him, make him do well in school (or not let him play) and truly care about his future while he is no longer in your home.

I grew up with tough love from my Dad and my life has been pretty good. As Hooves and I discussed in the past, the kids today (18-25 yrs old) that come into my place of work looking for a job are unbelievably lazy, have zero tolerance for any constructive criticism and want more more more without giving anything in return.

Learn how to hate basketball while
letting him butt fck you like a sheep.
Some kids need a drill sergeant to
tool them, some dont.

Great coach, horrible tactics.
Never ever did you ever hear this guy
say this is a beautiful game lets play
it the right way. He made it hell.

One of the best basketball minds
coupled with absolutely the worst
teaching methods. Except if you wanted
to produce a Spartan Warrior.

Complete enigma. A tragic Greek figure.
If you like Douglas McArthur or Patton,
he is your man. Basketball is not war.
And if a kid needs a game to teach him
to be a man try the Armed Forces.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Learn how to hate basketball while
letting him butt fck you like a sheep.Some kids need a drill sergeant to
tool them, some dont.

Great coach, horrible tactics.
Never ever did you ever hear this guy
say this is a beautiful game lets play
it the right way. He made it hell.

One of the best basketball minds
coupled with absolutely the worst
teaching methods. Except if you wanted
to produce a Spartan Warrior.

Complete enigma. A tragic Greek figure.
If you like Douglas McArthur or Patton,
he is your man. Basketball is not war.
And if a kid needs a game to teach him
to be a man try the Armed Forces.

Holy sh*t...Patrick...I didn't know you had that language in you.

Originally Posted by GPK

Holy sh*t...Patrick...I didn't know you had that language in you.

Cause the guy just frustrated the crud
out of me. He is so good, and so bad.

But the others are right. There are some
slimeball coaches like Harrick, that I would
be less inclined to see a kid with.

[Danzig]

i remember when he interviewed for playboy, at one point telling the interviewer to get out of the car. definitely had a tremendously short fuse.

the end doesn't justify the means. i think you can win, and teach men to be men, without all the baggage.

bye bobby. congrats on the 900+ wins. enjoy your retirement.

[King Glorious]

I'd absolutely send my kid to Knight. Even if he didn't want to go, I might try to make him. This is of course if Coach K is out of the picture.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'd absolutely send my kid to Knight. Even if he didn't want to go, I might try to make him. This is of course if Coach K is out of the picture.

Why do so many people have
kids that need corporal punishment?
My Dad beat the hell out of me,
he did not need Knight to do it.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'd absolutely send my kid to Knight. Even if he didn't want to go, I might try to make him. This is of course if Coach K is out of the picture.

3 things you can count on from BK. kids go to class, graduate and learn to play basketball the proper way. i don't like the way BK has treated people away from basketball. ask anyone that has played for him and see if you can get any to speak bad of him. same for opposing coaches.

quiet as it's kept coach k is NO freaking saint!