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Old 01-24-2008, 05:55 PM
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Andy,

What could you possibly mean by this as there's plenty of speed I don't see why they would need a precautionary rabbit (Interesting term). Do you think Four Roses looks at it that way? If I spent 130K for a horse it sure wouldn't be to help someone else.

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You're not being a dick, you're trying to be helpful, as obviously Mr. Umphrey is completely uncompetitive, and only entered as a precautionary rabbit for Benny the Bull.
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Old 01-24-2008, 06:13 PM
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Andy,

What could you possibly mean by this as there's plenty of speed I don't see why they would need a precautionary rabbit (Interesting term). Do you think Four Roses looks at it that way? If I spent 130K for a horse it sure wouldn't be to help someone else.

What am I missing master?

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Do I find it surprising that Four Roses allows Dutrow to use this horse to act as a rabbit for other owners? Yes, I definitely do. It makes one wonder. However, he has been a rabbit in the past ( most recently in the Meadowlands Cup for Diamond Stripes, but also in the Stephen Foster for Diamond Stripes as well as the Met Mile for Silver Train ). However, both those horses were Four Roses horses so perhaps you have a point. But, when Dutrow used two rabbits for Saint Liam in the Woodward they were owned by different owners than Saint Liam.

Perhaps Dutrow only entered him in case there wasn't a lot of speed in the race....or perhaps to ensure that one speed doesn't end up running alone on the lead. However, regardless of how I feel ( which is that he really isn't even fast enough to affect this particularly pace ), it is clear that he has been used as a rabbit in the past and that seems to be the case here.

Using his second by a head to Chatain, at 6F at the Meadowlands, to suggest he has a chance in this race is a major mistake IMO. Chatain is not really a 6F horse and was coming off a three month layoff. Plus, Mr. Umphrey was allowed to sit a very comfortable trip in that race against a bunch of overmatched rivals. Comparing that situation to this one is beyond apples and oranges.

Simply put, even if Mr. Umphrey wasn't entered as a rabbit, which seems unlikely, he is in way over his head and his career record backs that up.
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