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Old 01-09-2008, 05:58 PM
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What is your prediction for the surface that the breeders cup will be run over?
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Old 01-09-2008, 06:05 PM
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i agree that he will try to stick with dirt, if that is what they are going to do right away--why install another surface, after trying AWT, only to pull that up and go BACK to another AWT? three installations in a year? no way...

and as for the CHRB fighting that...good luck, as frank need only mention bay meadows. then there's the fact that both bay meadows and hollywood are expected to only be short term, with development expected in the near future of both properties.
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Old 01-09-2008, 06:07 PM
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What is your prediction for the surface that the breeders cup will be run over?
interesting side bar to the main story...will the BC come out in favor of remaining on a conventional surface? did the bc committee know when they chose santa anita that it would have an AWT or were the dates announced previous to the chrb mandate?
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Old 01-09-2008, 06:22 PM
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I think they will move to dirt and end up having a great meet. Pressure will come from everywhere on the CHRB to let them keep it especially with a Breeders Cup this year.

The open questions involve all the legalities and who is going to pay for all of it.
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Old 01-09-2008, 06:28 PM
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Is Stronach an IDIOT? The whole point of cushion track was to continue to get east coast stables to keep horse out west and it was starting to work.

Santa Anita F*** ed up the installation and the manufacture has said that it will do what ever it takes to make it right.

Get Cushion track to get it right and move on.

Santa Anita and Steve Woods were never able to do dirt right, the back side was fast and from the 1/4 pole to the wire was slow. If you didn't have the lead at the 1/4 pole you had NO CHANCE.
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Old 01-09-2008, 06:56 PM
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Is Stronach an IDIOT? The whole point of cushion track was to continue to get east coast stables to keep horse out west and it was starting to work.

Santa Anita F*** ed up the installation and the manufacture has said that it will do what ever it takes to make it right.

Get Cushion track to get it right and move on.

Santa Anita and Steve Woods were never able to do dirt right, the back side was fast and from the 1/4 pole to the wire was slow. If you didn't have the lead at the 1/4 pole you had NO CHANCE.
I know you meant this but Santa Anita didn't mess anything up, they paid CushionTrack to install it, and they messed it up. Who knows what is going to happen
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:10 PM
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I think Santa Anita tried to make the horseman happy after seeing what happened at Del Mar and I admire them for that.

I just don't think they should go to court and fight for a dirt track. I'm starting to like the syntheic tracks.

Say what you want, but it has put more horses in races. Golden Gate has a whole new life with its track.

I love Santa Anita and don't want to see this turn into a pissing contest that no one wins.
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:35 PM
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Ya Golden Gate's surface has just been super
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:56 PM
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I guess no one heard Rick Hammerle update the ATR audience tonight at 6:30.

A final decision will be reached tomorrow once SA management knows if there is enough topsoil and associated materials available to them for immediate delivery for the laying down of a dirt surface. If there is, they will install it while running turf cards.

If there is not enough material available to them, they will soldier on with the CushionTrack as is.
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Old 01-09-2008, 08:05 PM
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Ya Golden Gate's surface has just been super
Owners and trainers are still running thier horses on it no matter what this board has to say. Full fields too.
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