Mitchell Report Guessing Game

Originally Posted by Danzig

had he not asked for it, he'd be in hot water. now the named players are in hot water instead.
he did nothing to giambi, so how can he to anyone else?

Mitchell's recommendation was no punishment for exactly the reason God stated. Clearly the names were released for a reason. There is this little path of trainers, personal strength coaches, dealers, etc... that baseball players should not be associated with.

Breaking down a swing with hitting lessons should not involve injections.

Mitchell also stated that the widespread use of some of the cheaper more available drugs (testosterone and derivatives of this type) by high school kids was alarming.

The Olympics are of course much stricter and under a completely diff. set of rules compared to professional sports owned by individuals in a specific country. I imagine Canada might lay the wood to doped up curlers.

[packerbacker7964]

On another note Andy P can't be punished because HGH wasn't a banned substance when he took it in 2002. Alot of people are going to be mad over this and other's like him but it wasn't on the banned list back then.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by packerbacker7964

On another note Andy P can't be punished because HGH wasn't a banned substance when he took it in 2002. Alot of people are going to be mad over this and other's like him but it wasn't on the banned list back then.

you miss the point.

he could have taken steroids, tested positive, and the punishement would have been the same.

it was the wild west.

but lets concentrate on important stuff. can't you name any other sports where chemicals are an issue?

[King Glorious]

Well, I just saw Fernando Vina on tv giving his explanation of why he took HGH. This stuff is comical. Classic. He says he did it to help him recover from injuries. Pettite says the same thing. I find it strange that major league players, with teams hiring the best medical staffs and training teams around, would need to go seek out clubhouse managers for their medicines. And not even their OWN clubhouse managers. I would think that if they weren't satisfied with the doctors their clubs were offering, they made enough money to get other top quality doctors. This would be like the CEO of ABC going down to the NBC mailroom seeking medical advice and prescriptions. It doesn't make any sense. But then again, just like the people higher up in baseball, the players think the public is stupid too. The funny thing is, they are right.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Well, I just saw Fernando Vina on tv giving his explanation of why he took HGH. This stuff is comical. Classic. He says he did it to help him recover from injuries. Pettite says the same thing. I find it strange that major league players, with teams hiring the best medical staffs and training teams around, would need to go seek out clubhouse managers for their medicines. And not even their OWN clubhouse managers. I would think that if they weren't satisfied with the doctors their clubs were offering, they made enough money to get other top quality doctors. This would be like the CEO of ABC going down to the NBC mailroom seeking medical advice and prescriptions. It doesn't make any sense. But then again, just like the people higher up in baseball, the players think the public is stupid too. The funny thing is, they are right.

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[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Well, I just saw Fernando Vina on tv giving his explanation of why he took HGH. This stuff is comical. Classic. He says he did it to help him recover from injuries. Pettite says the same thing. I find it strange that major league players, with teams hiring the best medical staffs and training teams around, would need to go seek out clubhouse managers for their medicines. And not even their OWN clubhouse managers. I would think that if they weren't satisfied with the doctors their clubs were offering, they made enough money to get other top quality doctors. This would be like the CEO of ABC going down to the NBC mailroom seeking medical advice and prescriptions. It doesn't make any sense. But then again, just like the people higher up in baseball, the players think the public is stupid too. The funny thing is, they are right.

user's handbook:

1) deny deny deny deny

2) when presented with evidence continue to deny.

3) when evidence becomes overwhelming say you only did it once and it wasn't to get any kind of edge and you truely regret this one mistake you ever made.

all these guys are going to be saying the same thing.

[Mortimer]

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[SCUDSBROTHER]

I saw Vina bullshitin' on ESPN.That's what it looks like when somebody is being a liar in public.He was told that the guy says he sold him HGH and a certain kind of steroid.The interviewer asks him point blank if he bought the steroid,and Fernando says "I bought HGH." That's a liar.That's what they do.They answer a question with an affirmative about something they weren't asked about.If they have to lie ,they will,but 1st they try to affirm what they want you to know they did do.If that doesn't work,then they will say they didn't buy the steroid.