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Old 12-10-2007, 06:16 PM
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People are " bitching ", Chuck, because it's a topic of interest. The BC has run roughshod over major racing to the point of making a year of once historically great racing almost superfluous. Luckily, these new races won't make many races meaningless because there are absolutely no races to substantiate them.

It is the BC that named themselves the " World Championship " races and now they are making supposed championships for divisions that barely exist and only do so at a very mediocre level. We have every right to bitch about how preposterous they are.

None of this particularly affects me personally as I deal with racing on a day to day level and from a betting standpoint these major races have very little affect on me. However, from the standpoint of a fan of the game, which I am, I hate to see the BC further marginalize racing.
I think it's funny that you continue to take the word "championships" so literally in this case.

I still cant see how a fillies turf race or turf sprint hurts the sport or marginalizes it. It is not like Saratoga is going to flip the Hopefull with the With Distinction or drop the Forgeo for a turf sprint.
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:18 PM
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Just pointing out how full of sh it they are. I didn't claim they were championship races.....they did.

The money would be better spent elsewhere.....a lot better spent.
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:20 PM
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Just pointing out how full of sh it they are. I didn't claim they were championship races.....they did.

The money would be better spent elsewhere.....a lot better spent.

Compared to where a lot of it($$$) has been going these races are almost the equivalent of charities
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:25 PM
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I expect the allowance/stakes turf sprints out west to decrease in field size and quality...and using quality is a real stretch. Really what's the use in running when there is $1 million race at the end of the season?

At least they can fill the card with another maiden claimer instead if the turf sprints don't fill.
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:33 PM
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I expect the allowance/stakes turf sprints out west to decrease in field size and quality...and using quality is a real stretch. Really what's the use in running when there is $1 million race at the end of the season?
At least they can fill the card with another maiden claimer instead if the turf sprints don't fill.
Because the you will need points to qualify since the race will be overfilled
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:42 PM
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Because the you will need points to qualify since the race will be overfilled
Which will result in some of the good horses in the division not running in the summer because they already have enough points which results in weaker fields. Hooray.
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:25 PM
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I think it's funny that you continue to take the word "championships" so literally in this case.

I still cant see how a fillies turf race or turf sprint hurts the sport or marginalizes it. It is not like Saratoga is going to flip the Hopefull with the With Distinction or drop the Forgeo for a turf sprint.
Somewhere, someone probably said that about the Marlboro.
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:31 PM
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Somewhere, someone probably said that about the Marlboro.
The Marlboro was a sponsorship race that ended when Marlboro pulled out
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:35 PM
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The Marlboro was a sponsorship race that ended when Marlboro pulled out
Phillip Morris pulled out when the race couldn't draw entries and lost it's audience. The last year the race drew a field of 5 and was on ESPN.

Directly a result of the Breeders Cup.
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