Whale's past post sets off alarm

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by cmfhb411

I understand that, if people want to bet and know wagering will be closed a couple of minutes before post time it won't take very long to get used to.
And getting shut out of betting wasn't a problem when I first started playing in the early '90s. Back then the majority of my play was at the NYCOTBs, when guess what ? ............

Even though this should disqualify you from any rational conversation I will try. The problem with the "deadline" of posttime being closed is that the actual posttime is dependant on several things. One being that in cases of long lines at the windows the mutual manager will often add a minute or 2 to the posttime to try to get as much money into the pools as possible. Another being delays due to inquiries, loose horses, bad gate actors, weather, etc. What do you do if a horse gets loose with 3 minutes to post? Make an announcement that posttime will be extended? What about the players at other tracks, simulcast outlets or betting from home? How do you notify them? Or do you just close the betting and let people stand there for 5 minutes with live money in thier pockets? It is not as easy as some people make it out to be, Dude.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by cmfhb411

Or do you believe we need more players complaining about seeing changes in the odds in the middle of watching a race ?

Will that be worse then the complaints of the bets not getting in?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by cmfhb411

Maybe the 1st week or two, but after that none of us would hear a peep.

I'd peep. I'd definitely prefer to retain the ability to bet, cover, cancel to break, versus having definitive odds and a closed window 1 minute to post. Too much happens in that last few minutes, too frequently.

The important thing is that no bets are made after the break, period. The odds adjusting to final in the next 10-15 seconds - that I can, and have, lived with nicely, simply through anticipation.

[Bobby Fischer]

Each track has a "stop wagering device"
In a good system this device would be tested, and monitered by a professional (seriously) it should be someone's responsibility. Ideally the tracks would be fined when the device malfunctions on/before a live race.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

Each track has a "stop wagering device"
In a good system this device would be tested, and monitered by a professional (seriously) it should be someone's responsibility. Ideally the tracks would be fined when the device malfunctions on/before a live race.

What is the deal now (how does it work) at various tracks. I only partly heard that discussion on ATR ... is it a manual signal from the mutuals manager?

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Riot

What is the deal now (how does it work) at various tracks. I only partly heard that discussion on ATR ... is it a manual signal from the mutuals manager?

Stewards first.. then Mutuels/Tote Company have backup stop..

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Stewards first.. then Mutuels/Tote Company have backup stop..

Then I'd agree with the dedicated pro vs. a steward, and fines unless a unavoidable and documentable malfunction occurs.