Milliage to the Nats?

[MaTH716]

The same division also, I am sure that Mr Milliage will stick it to the Mets more than a few times.

[SniperSB23]

Milledge was a bigger prospect than Preston Wilson and at 22 already has parts of two years major league experience as opposed to Wilson who was 24 when he was traded and had two weeks of MLB experience. Yet we got Mike Piazza for Wilson, and Ryan Church and Brian fricken Schneider for Milledge. God this pisses me off.

[Cannon Shell]

I dont think it is that bad a trade at all if the Mets are trying to win now. Church had a sneaky good year last year hitting .272 with 43 2bs, 15 hrs, 70 rbi's, scoring 57 runs, with a .349 OBP and .464 SLG%. This was done starting 3/4 of the games in the worst park for hitters in the league. He bats left handed, can play all of the outfield positions well (he is a good defensive player) and will be willing to play a role on a team that may sit him against lefthanders. This will allow the Mets to give Alou (who quietly had a good year despite numerous injuries) rest aginst really tough righties especially since he isn't a 150 game a year player anymore. With Beltran in Center and Church and Chavez in the corner OF positions, the Mets will have the best outfield defense in the NL.
Schneider ( a lefty catcher) will most likely platoon with Estrada and probably be a late innings defensive replacment too. He doesn't hit much but is a way better defensive catcher than Lo Duca who was basically a terrible catcher whose main attribute was that he didn't strike out much. Of course he didnt have any power or even walk near enough to make up for the roughly 60 BB's or singles that he allowed to be doubles behind the plate. Estrada/Schneider is an upgrade over Lo Duca/Castro.

Milledge simply wont be effective as a part time player and the Mets cant take a chance at him flopping and trying to find an expensive replacement mid season. He strikes out too much, make only decent contact and probably not ready to handle the immense pressure that the Mets will have on them considering the collapse. He may just be the latest Mets phenom who wasn't. If he turns out to be the next Alex Rios I will admit I was wrong but I'm gonna guess he wont.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont think it is that bad a trade at all if the Mets are trying to win now. Church had a sneaky good year last year hitting .272 with 43 2bs, 15 hrs, 70 rbi's, scoring 57 runs, with a .349 OBP and .464 SLG%. This was done starting 3/4 of the games in the worst park for hitters in the league. He bats left handed, can play all of the outfield positions well (he is a good defensive player) and will be willing to play a role on a team that may sit him against lefthanders. This will allow the Mets to give Alou (who quietly had a good year despite numerous injuries) rest aginst really tough righties especially since he isn't a 150 game a year player anymore. With Beltran in Center and Church and Chavez in the corner OF positions, the Mets will have the best outfield defense in the NL.
Schneider ( a lefty catcher) will most likely platoon with Estrada and probably be a late innings defensive replacment too. He doesn't hit much but is a way better defensive catcher than Lo Duca who was basically a terrible catcher whose main attribute was that he didn't strike out much. Of course he didnt have any power or even walk near enough to make up for the roughly 60 BB's or singles that he allowed to be doubles behind the plate. Estrada/Schneider is an upgrade over Lo Duca/Castro.

Milledge simply wont be effective as a part time player and the Mets cant take a chance at him flopping and trying to find an expensive replacement mid season. He strikes out too much, make only decent contact and probably not ready to handle the immense pressure that the Mets will have on them considering the collapse. He may just be the latest Mets phenom who wasn't. If he turns out to be the next Alex Rios I will admit I was wrong but I'm gonna guess he wont.

I hope you are right on Church but I can't get too enthused about a guy who didn't even have a decent season until he's 29. He strikes out once every 4.39 and a hitters ballpark (which Shea isn't but who knows what the new ballpark will bring) isn't going to help him with that. Milledge strikes out once every 4.38 at bats but one would think he has more room to improve on that than Church does.

I can't see them keeping three catchers so I assume they won't tender Estrada making him a free agent. They can't release Castro since they just signed him to a deal with guaranteed money.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I hope you are right on Church but I can't get too enthused about a guy who didn't even have a decent season until he's 29.

I can't see them keeping three catchers so I assume they won't tender Estrada making him a free agent. They can't release Castro since they just signed him to a deal with guaranteed money.

You are right the NY papers said they would most likely not tender Estrada. I understand the Mets need to win now but Millage's potential is much larger than Church's production.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by 3kings

You are right the NY papers said they would most likely not tender Estrada. I understand the Mets need to win now but Millage's potential is much larger than Church's production.

Potential gets guys in NY fired. I watched the Mets play a lot (I'm a closet fan) and never saw the "greatness waiting to happen" from him. I know he has issues and is a couple of years older but Josh Hamilton is the type of young player that even non professionals like me can see have the talent to be great. Milledge should fare better away from the spotlight but I'm not convinced that he is going to be much more than a slower version of Corey Patterson with a bit more pop.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Potential gets guys in NY fired. I watched the Mets play a lot (I'm a closet fan) and never saw the "greatness waiting to happen" from him. I know he has issues and is a couple of years older but Josh Hamilton is the type of young player that even non professionals like me can see have the talent to be great. Milledge should fare better away from the spotlight but I'm not convinced that he is going to be much more than a slower version of Corey Patterson with a bit more pop.

You may be correct, I may have a anti R.Church bias. I used to play fantasy bb and he drove me nuts. Every year was going to be his breakout year and every year he went back and forth between starter, bench and the minors. Now Milledge will probably to the same to others while I no longer play fantasy bb. I may have a *hit eating grin while it occurs to.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I hope you are right on Church but I can't get too enthused about a guy who didn't even have a decent season until he's 29.

I can't see them keeping three catchers so I assume they won't tender Estrada making him a free agent. They can't release Castro since they just signed him to a deal with guaranteed money.

They will probably keep all three for now. Someone is always looking for a cheap back up catcher.

Church may not have that much upside but he is a better player than Milledge right now and being left handed gives them a lot more options. I think Milledge is going to be a bust.