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Old 11-27-2007, 03:01 PM
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Wonderful to see her come back to her form. She is 3/4 to multi-millionaire Golden Missile. They have the same AP Indy-Cure the Blues cross.
While they do have the same cross....they come from different dams.

Autobahn Girl is out of the excellent sprinting race mare Saoirise.

Golden Missile is out of Santa Catalina

Thus, she is not 3/4 to GM.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:37 PM
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She is 3/4 to Golden Missile. They share 3 out of 4 grand parents making them 3/4 to each other. They share the same cross, therefore they are 3/4 to each other. This is not a tough concept.

Furthermore, Golden Missile has 3 reines de course in his family. Judy O'Grady, Agnes Sard, and Blue Denim. His family is solid. Autobahn Girl has 3 reines on her family line. Beaver Street, Stolen Kiss, and Mitrailleuse.

If they also shared the same dam they would be FULL siblings. Because they share 3 out of 4 grandparents they are 3/4 to each other. Just like Desert Warrior is 3/4 to Go Deputy and Dehere.

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Old 11-27-2007, 11:53 PM
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She is 3/4 to Golden Missile. They share 3 out of 4 grand parents making them 3/4 to each other. They share the same cross, therefore they are 3/4 to each other. This is not a tough concept.
Oh brother!

Ok - let's say that Autobahn Girl was by Slew City Slew out of her real dam Saorise (a Cure the Blues mare)

And Golden Missile is by his real sire A. P. Indy out of his real dam Santa Catalina (a Cure the Blues mare)

They would share 2 out of the 4 grandparents and WOULD NOT be half siblings.

In horse racing, you have to come from the same dam to be any kind of a sibling to a horse.

While if they were humans you'd be right, You are confusing having the same cross with being a 75% sibling in horse racing terms.

No one said that Z Humor was a 3/4 sibling to Any Given Saturday because he shared the same cross (sire and dam sire) - they both came from different mares!
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:55 PM
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Why bother?
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:01 AM
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Why bother?
Exactly my thoughts bud. 3/4 means 3 out of the same 4 grandparents. Simple. Except for you 2 simpletons who insist on over analyzing everything.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:03 AM
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Exactly my thoughts bud. 3/4 means 3 out of the same 4 grandparents. Simple. Except for you 2 simpletons who insist on over analyzing everything.

Let me quote the brilliant DrugS....." oh brother. "
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Why bother?
True.

I showed good restraint earlier in the day - with Sniper's analogy of saying Daheer losing at Fort Erie was equal to saying Pleasantly Perfect, Azeri, and Birdstone all lost at Lone Star...because the POW is Fort Erie's most important race.

When, in fact, the correct analogy would have been made using Skip Away and Midnight Lute's sire Real Quiet - who both were upset in the Texas Mile at Lone Star. The young tracks most important race.

You're right though...as usual.
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True.

I showed good restraint earlier in the day - with Sniper's analogy of saying Daheer losing at Fort Erie was equal to saying Pleasantly Perfect, Azeri, and Birdstone all lost at Lone Star...because the POW is Fort Erie's most important race.

When, in fact, the correct analogy would have been made using Skip Away and Midnight Lute's sire Real Quiet - who both were upset in the Texas Mile at Lone Star. The young tracks most important race.

You're right though...as usual.

Apologize to Sniper for lumping him in with this insanity.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:57 PM
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An example of what would be considered a 3/4 sibling would be....

Bold Legacy - by Seattle Slew out of the mare Cara Rafeala

Bernardini - by A. P. Indy (a son of Seattle Slew) out of the mare Cara Rafeala.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:08 AM
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She is 3/4 to Golden Missile. They share 3 out of 4 grand parents making them 3/4 to each other. They share the same cross, therefore they are 3/4 to each other. This is not a tough concept.
Apparently it is for you.
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:39 AM
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Sumitas...I see that when you came to the fork in the trail...you took the path least traveled....in this case I think it has just gotten you lost..

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Old 11-28-2007, 09:49 AM
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No sir. I subscribe to the www.pedigreequery.com definition of 3/4 cross even if I don't have your all permission. 3/4 is a simple way to describe that 2 horses share the same 3 grand parents. If you want to amend that further, and further, and further, far be it for me to tell you not to.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:11 PM
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So, if two horses share the same four grandparents, does that make them twins?

Full siblings?

Clones?

Closely related?
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Giuliani's ex-wives?
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