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11-08-2007, 01:41 PM
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If a horse like Tango was "great" to someone it's certainly OK, and everyone appreciates their love for the horse in question and their feelings of loss. But don't expect those with historical perspectives on performance, that define greatness with very specific results-oriented parameters, to accept it without question. "Greatness" in racing has a rather distinct usage and definition. You're suggesting that those who don't agree with its' application have no right to express their opinion, and those that express it are implicitly correct because of the sentiment attached to it. That's going to be greeted timelessly with derision. No one was ridiculing NCTD for loving Tango. They were questioning the merits of the filly being defined as great by her on-track performance. This is a difficult game to follow if you can't seperate the two sets of opinion and are overwhelmed by the unfortunate and frequently tragic passing of horses.
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11-08-2007, 01:52 PM
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Is it ok that I think of my Great Grandfather as being my Great Grandfather....or should i consider him as just the father of my Grandfather???
jk....it's just my warped mind at play
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11-08-2007, 01:54 PM
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Whether or not it was mean-spirited is a fine line, but remembering certain comments on past threads? Yeah, I think it's intent was to be just the slightest bit rude. I was slammed on the Super Frolic mattered thread and that's fine. I never went back to post on it... why bother? My intent was to simply say he mattered. I had my say so when the insults started flying i left it alone. I don't go out of my way to post on things that i really have no interest in, just to be rude, like BTW's dunce cap thread. Why bother? We all pick winners and we all suck at times. I'm not gonna go and purposely throw that thread in his face. I'm mean but I'm not that mean. It's under the surface (here) to me anyway. If you didn't give a crap about this horse why post at all... you know? That's the part I don't understand. Someone is feeling devasted..... it's just without class to throw something, some little comment in their face. That's all. edit - Oh wait a minute, that's not the one I left alone.....  Last edited by my miss storm cat : 11-08-2007 at 02:05 PM.
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11-08-2007, 02:04 PM
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My Miss Storm Cat
Don't act all high and mighty. I said nothing personally nasty to you in the thread about Super Frolic yet you responded by making repeated personal attacks at me in other threads in this room. I don't care....it just shows others the kind of person you actually are. However, stop pretending you stand on some high moral plateau while others here wallow in the mud.
I liked Alexander Tango, and even had some of her connections sitting with me in the box for the Garden City, and was merely disagreeing with her being labelled great. And, quite obviously, I did so in a fair manner.
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11-08-2007, 02:07 PM
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I'm not acting high and mighty. I'm just giving an opinion.
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11-08-2007, 02:12 PM
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So, in your opinion you shouldn't have to abide by the same rules you believe others should post under.
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11-08-2007, 03:24 PM
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Where has mmsc not abided to the rules, which we apparently abide by ourselves?
I understand that there is a big difference between the people who naturally care about the equine species. The animals that give us the opportunity to bet at all. I started this thread because she is/was a horse i really liked and cared about. I'm sure everybody has their favourites and yes, she was one of mine. It might just so happen that others on here might really like a horse that i have no interest on. If the same misfortune was to happen to that particular animal, would i post anything in the thread that could cause upset to the topic starter? Ofcourse i wouldn't. Is this stopping you having an opinion of your own? No, it isn't. If a family member was to die and someone was to write "she was a great mother......" what would it look like if someone came on and posted "i'm sorry, but she certainly wasn't great". Now, i know this will get the response "well, c'mon NoChance she was JUST a horse"....... ya know what, yeah she was a horse, a horse who i really liked. Was she as good as i was hoping she could be when i first saw her? No........ but does that mean i cannot call her great without getting certain remarks. As MMSC said, you read the thread, you obviously didn't agree, so why post? I don't mind that you don't think she was a "great" filly. You can have your own opinion, however, i do feel there was a certain nature behind some of those posts. A nature, which i didn't like. I wouldn't care if she was a Gr1 winner or a maiden claimer. I liked her from day one. In my eyes she was great. End of.
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11-08-2007, 03:36 PM
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I'll start by giving you the thread full of MMSC's disgraceful behavoir.... http://www.derbytrail.com./forums/sh...ad.php?t=17091 though this post is my personal favorite... Quote:
On the highlighted portion of your post I have a few comments.... You seem to be saying it is both OK for someone to express an opinion but not OK if that opinion disagrees with what has been posted. I don't understand this. Like it or not, especially if you aren't being personally nasty, people are allowed to disagree with opinions here. You didn't say " I loved Alexander Tango and am very sad about her death. " You said two things, a version of what I just wrote AND that she was great. You expressed an opinion, which you are certainly allowed to do, and others responded with a different opinion, which they are also allowed to do. Now, on your stuff about comparing a horse's death to the death of a parent. You can post what you want I suppose....but so can others. Being that my father passed away less than two weeks ago I find your analogy as offensive as it is ludicrous. But, hey, we are all allowed our own opinions.
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