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Old 10-30-2007, 09:03 PM
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There have been many in the last 15 years that didn't live up to the ones in the 80's for me. This years was no different.
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:11 PM
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I thought it was a great event. I really enjoyed the addition of the Juvenile Turf. The track conditions did add to the strategy, but in terms of aesthetics and tactics, I would have much preffered fast and firm track conditions.
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Old 10-31-2007, 03:20 PM
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I think this is the first time I've come out firmly ahead in several years. Track conditions really help narrow down these deep, deep fields for me. Sure I ended up tossing a few winners simply because of track conditions (English Channel), but the Maryfields and Kip Deville's of the world more than made up for it at the end of the weekend.
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Old 10-31-2007, 07:23 PM
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This yrs BC was crap.

1) Track conditions were sloppy and crappy
2) The addition of 3 more races makes shorter fields in the classic. Without the dirt mile, we might have seen wanderin boy, corinthian, discreet cat and others fill in the BC Classic field making it a fat 12 horse + field.

The 16 race BC program next yr will bring even shorter fields.
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:04 PM
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I think the racing was great. I'm biased, but regardless, I thought the racing was great. Jeez, how can you not be impressed with what Curlin has done this year. Most impressive performance of the day, and off the cuff, Midnight Lute second, Corinthian third; maybe I'm missing something.

The weather was lousy. It was what it was, Mother Nature -- what can you do. I think "Monmouth Park" as a facility was great. I think they did a super job, facility wise. The teller situation seemed very good, concession stands as well, and there didn't seem to be too many people in a facility that couldn't handle it. The ticket distribution and pricing strucuture is the abolsute worst I've ever seen it. In all the years of the Breeders Cup, it has now achieved a level of being pathetic. It must be changed. The Breeders Cup needs to be "a lot more" of a lot -- a lot more accessible to the masses, customer friendly and conducive, etc. Of course, this is not a host track issue however, it's a Breeders Cup issue.

I believe that the mindset of the Breeders Cup people/management is that they are more concerned about the business aspect, corporate sponsorship, revenues, etc. -- than they are about the show.

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Old 10-31-2007, 08:18 PM
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After initially destesting the idea of the Friday -Saturday format, I must admit I LOVE it - Man, taking the afternoon off on Friday to head over to the track (locally, not Monmouth ) for the prelude to Super Saturday was awesome, and something I'll look forward to for years to come.

Overall the racing was above par - and the Classic was one for the ages (save for GW ). Such a shame that the weather played such a huge factor, but one way to look at it is that we had the chance to see what truely great horses will overcome to become champions.

English Channel's Victory in the Turf was epic; what a way to go out!...Ginger Punch silencing (finally!) her critics, the list goes on.....The only strange twist was that I was glad I didn't go this year, and enjoyed the day from home....Nothing against Monmouth, but it ain't Santa Anita
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:24 PM
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Too bad the track was sloppy but I really enjoyed
the Classic. And of course English Channel winning
the turf in the manner he did was wonderful. The sprint
was really impressive. I enjoyed it.

George Washington's mishap clearly put a damper
on things. The racing itself was enjoyable for me.
Of course I like it almost every year.
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:03 PM
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I think the racing was great. I'm biased, but regardless, I thought the racing was great. Jeez, how can you not be impressed with what Curlin has done this year. Most impressive performance of the day, and off the cuff, Midnight Lute second, Corinthian third; maybe I'm missing something.

The weather was lousy. It was what it was, Mother Nature -- what can you do. I think "Monmouth Park" as a facility was great. I think they did a super job, facility wise. The teller situation seemed very good, concession stands as well, and there didn't seem to be too many people in a facility that couldn't handle it. The ticket distribution and pricing strucuture is the abolsute worst I've ever seen it. In all the years of the Breeders Cup, it has now achieved a level of being pathetic. It must be changed. The Breeders Cup needs to be "a lot more" of a lot -- a lot more accessible to the masses, customer friendly and conducive, etc. Of course, this is not a host track issue however, it's a Breeders Cup issue.

I believe that the mindset of the Breeders Cup people/management is that they are more concerned about the business aspect, corporate sponsorship, revenues, etc. -- than they are about the show.

Eric
I agree, there were some 'wow' performances on the day, even the Distaff division, which everyone had been saying was very dull outside of RTR, gave the best horse to horse battle down the stretch.

Because of Mother Nature I can say I was definitely glad to be watching from home though.
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:06 PM
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I hate the #'s game, but I came up with about the same, so I think that # is somewhat on. I think Curlin's # will be substantially higher. I won't throw it out there but I think you are at 10% or so.

My "impressive" performances weren't based on #'s however.

Anyway, I can apprecaite watching from home. I like that too, often better than live. I'm just glad it was a great BC week.

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Old 11-01-2007, 05:19 PM
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Old 11-01-2007, 06:10 PM
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Only been to four BC's myself but of course I love to watch when I am not able to get there. I kinda think that the BC should probably be held at CD every year.
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Old 11-01-2007, 06:16 PM
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I hated this year's BC just about as much as I hated last year's event. I'm so glad I didn't go... no way I would have been able to sit there and see George Washington go down like that covered in mud.

It didn't help that I didn't have a single winner either.
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Old 11-01-2007, 06:18 PM
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I enjoyed it very much, how could you not? It is like the superbowl for horseracing fans. I had the chance to go and know I can not wait till it comes back to Belmont so I could go again.
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Old 11-01-2007, 06:35 PM
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I enjoyed it very much, how could you not? It is like the superbowl for horseracing fans. I had the chance to go and know I can not wait till it comes back to Belmont so I could go again.
I agree. It was a lot of fun to be able to be there in person. Yeah, the weather sucked & my selections were even worse, but it was still the Cup. In fact, the weather allowed you to get right up to the Paddock & the winner's circle this year. I even got to meet Steve & a couple other DT'ers...
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Old 11-01-2007, 06:22 PM
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1. was it good to wager on - no, the weather sealed that fate
2. was there exceptional performances that will standout over time - I dont think so, Curlin certainly ran huge but I doubt 15 years from now anyone remembers it for more then a classic win, EC ran super but not sure he beat much once dylan thomas did not run. midnight lute ran pretty good, I might remember that.


I think those two questions go hand in hand with the BC. This one fell way short on 1 and mostly on 2. In fact it can be argued this BC did more to hurt racing then helped.
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Old 11-03-2007, 05:43 PM
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I kept hoping Tom Durkin would show up and save the day.....
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Old 11-03-2007, 05:48 PM
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Considering what a disaster it could have been (small track, terrible weather), it turned out to be very enjoyable. Certainly had much more fun last Saturday than I did freezing my extremities off in 35 degree weather at BEL in '05.
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:36 PM
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Even though she did not win, I thought Octave ran a heck of a race....
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:14 PM
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The weather in NJ made me think of 2002 at Arlington and all the whining and complaining about the cold. I would move that day up based upon conditions and fields we just saw. I think it was better attended, the turf was superb and you got a few prices on the day ( Valponi!)
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:17 PM
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Moving BC day, cancelling and going the next day, etc. -- while desirable -- it is just extremely difficult and not very feasible.

Sure, if conditions were truly dangerous, there would be no questions.

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