So where are all the "Pletcher is God" disciples and NO BIZ is crap believers?

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Just, FYI, Nobiz got a career high 103, five points less than the winner.

NT

Great a 103. Which I believe he had already run before, maybe on dirt. Are we now saying horses that run a 103 beyer are fast? Excellent Art ran by him like he was stuck in mud.

Curlin ran a 119. English Channel a 110+. Those are fast horses but somehow we hear more about this Nobiz horse than we ever hear about English Channel. Give it up already. The horse is not fast.

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by Benevolus

Great a 103. Which I believe he had already run before, maybe on dirt. Are we now saying horses that run a 103 beyer are fast? Excellent Art ran by him like he was stuck in mud.

Curlin ran a 119. English Channel a 110+. Those are fast horses but somehow we hear more about this Nobiz horse than we ever hear about English Channel. Give it up already. The horse is not fast.

He's 3, with 4 races on the turf under his belt? English Channel is 5 with about 4 times more racing experience (on the turf). Comparing his 103 to Curlin's 119 on the dirt is simply moronic.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Benevolus

Are we now saying horses that run a 103 beyer are fast?

I'm not about to wade into the "how good is NoBiz" debate, but yes, horses that run 103 Beyers are fast. If not, I'll take a whole barn full of those slow critters.

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I'm not about to wade into the "how good is NoBiz" debate, but yes, horses that run 103 Beyers are fast. If not, I'll take a whole barn full of those slow critters.

Not with grade 1 horses it isn't.