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Old 07-21-2006, 05:15 PM
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I would guess you want to thank the State Racing and Wagering Board.

I know you're steamed, it's understandable, but I'm not sure the rule isn't the MOST fair for all concerned parties.
Yeah you should always give a guy with two losers in a multi race bet as much as a guy with two winners. I am calling the NYS wagering board, I want an explanation of this. This is the single worst thing I have ever seen at the racetrack.
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Old 07-21-2006, 05:17 PM
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Office was closed at 5 PM. Have to wait until Monday to wish someone an illness.
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Old 07-21-2006, 05:20 PM
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Did you know NYRA had a poll on their website a little while ago and asked how many races were necessary to be run to make a Pick-6 not a refund? I believe the winner was 4.

Anyway, it's a Racing and Wagering Board rule that is endorsed by NYRA. I think if you weren't steamed you would understand why this is the most fair way to handle the situation.

Here's a question....would whomever bet your Pick-6 have put in the same amount of money had it been a double combining the 4th and 5th races?

The bottom line is this is a greater good protection of the bettor, which by the way, once again hurts NYRA. Had it been a " Pick-2 " they would have gotten the take-out. This way they got nothing.
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Old 07-21-2006, 05:22 PM
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Did you know NYRA had a poll on their website a little while ago and asked how many races were necessary to be run to make a Pick-6 not a refund? I believe the winner was 4.

Anyway, it's a Racing and Wagering Board rule that is endorsed by NYRA. I think if you weren't steamed you would understand why this is the most fair way to handle the situation.

Here's a question....would whomever bet your Pick-6 have put in the same amount of money had it been a double combining the 4th and 5th races?

The bottom line is this is a greater good protection of the bettor, which by the way, once again hurts NYRA. Had it been a " Pick-2 " they would have gotten the take-out. This way they got nothing.
Really? Well how is that different than paying a consolation on a pik-3 where only one race is run?
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Old 07-21-2006, 05:25 PM
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Really? Well how is that different than paying a consolation on a pik-3 where only one race is run?
I would say you know why it's different...very different.

Would the ticket you are discussing here have been played if there was no carryover?
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Old 07-21-2006, 05:31 PM
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For those that don't know what happened and picked up this thread...

http://www.nyra.com/belmont/second.aspx?track=B&id=2132
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Old 07-21-2006, 05:37 PM
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Basically I am a big NYRA supporter but they get an "F" for the way they handled things today from top to bottom.
First of all all major sports teams like the Yankees have someone monitoring weather and doppler radar. NYRA certainly has taken races off the turf before this in ADVANCE of a storm. Today they failed to do it. Its basically why they were so eager to cancel instead of letting the storms pass. They knew by not cancelling turf earlier in the day that the pik-4 was a total loss. The whole thing was handled horribly, even the most staunch NYRA advocate would have to come to that conclusion.
Someone really should apologize for the shafting that took place. And I fail to see how paying a conso when one race(ONE THIRD OF THE TOTAL RACES IN A MULTIRACE WAGER) has been run ina pik-3 sequence is any different than running two races in a 6 race multirace wager(ONE THIRD OF THE TOTAL RACES IN THE SEQUENCE). This was amateur hour by people who really are supposed to be sharper than this. If they really wanted to protect the public and jocks they would have taken those races off earlier. WHoever made that call(to not cancel the grass races earlier) is a first class imbecile.
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