Bailey calls it water skiing

[sumitas]

there is clearly a speed bias with Cobalt Blue somehow overcoming that. there is speed in the money, winning in every race so far and i don't see how that will change today.

[Merlinsky]

Just a quick point but War Pass had almost exactly the same time as Street Sense did last year. And aren't the fillies often a tad faster than the boys in the juvenile races? Seems to happen a little before they mature but this time War Pass was actually ahead of Indian Blessing. I'd say even if they're front runners you've still got some talented individuals doing the winning and they'll probably have to go into next year before they get any respect for being just that good. Assuming of course they mature.

All that said, I wonder about Hard Spun. He's got the shoes and the running style if there IS a bias...that outside position though..

[Scav]

Originally Posted by sumitas

there is clearly a speed bias with Cobalt Blue somehow overcoming that. there is speed in the money, winning in every race so far and i don't see how that will change today.

You couldn't be more wrong. While I hated Indian Blessing today, War Pass was the best horse in the race and ran his race. If anything, it might be that the inside is better then the outside, and I mean the top three paths, four out of 5 were there for most of the race, including Cobalt Blue who just circle and was in the 5 path when he was closing

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by sumitas

there is clearly a speed bias with Cobalt Blue somehow overcoming that. there is speed in the money, winning in every race so far and i don't see how that will change today.

Okay, have it your way. The favorite wins 2 races on the lead, but a 12-1 shot is somehow able to come from 9 lengths back to win. If that's "clearly a speed bias", fine.

--Dunbar

[sumitas]

it is to me but you call em as you see em. you see a fair track then go for it. i think Hard Spun looks like the winner of the classic right now.

[SentToStud]

On Wednesday, one horse closed a bit to win the last race. Otherwise, it was all the front.

On Thursday, absolutely nothing closed to win, much less deep closed.

Friday, Hawkinsville came from off the pace a bit, Hunting, Margos Gift, Maryfield and Corinthian all closed from 4L+ off the pace.

Take a look at Thursday's charts. It was a conveyor belt. Yesterday and today seem much less biased.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

On Wednesday, one horse closed a bit to win the last race. Otherwise, it was all the front.

On Thursday, absolutely nothing closed to win, much less deep closed.

Friday, Hawkinsville came from off the pace a bit, Hunting, Margos Gift, Maryfield and Corinthian all closed from 4L+ off the pace.

Take a look at Thursday's charts. It was a conveyor belt. Yesterday and today seem much less biased.

When the track is off, I pay very little attention to the previous days' races. Any biases can change day-to-day, even without changing weather conditions.

Midnight Lute had no trouble making up about 9 lengths in the Sprint.

--Dunbar