Who will be burning money?

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I just don't like your smug attitude. Period. If the BC is so unimportant then wtf are you doing posting on a board primarily for American racing other than to troll?

Your insight is that of a fan yet you're acting like an insider. You aren't. You don't know what they're going to do. I was mocking you.

When have I said the BC was unimportant??

I have said that the Coolmore team weren't interested in sending DT to the Breeder's Cup, and that is true. Before the Arc when asked if DT would go to America the answer was no. Then it changed to if he won he wouldn't travel. It shows that coming here was a very last minute decision. Even if he didn't win there was only an outside chance he's come here.

No, i'm not an insider, but i do know that there is doubt over him running at this point in time. Aidan O'brien has publicly said that the horse doesn't like soft ground and they will try and avoid it whenever possible.

The ground will be on the soft side on Saturday.

No, i don't know what they are going to do, i was told by a friend who works for coolmore in the States that there is a doubt if the rain comes, whether she is 'in the know' i'm not sure, but those words had come from Dermot Ryan, and that has been backed up on our racing channel today.

I'm not saying he won't run, but there is a doubt over him doing so.

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

When have I said the BC was unimportant??

I have said that the Coolmore team weren't interested in sending DT to the Breeder's Cup, and that is true. Before the Arc when asked if DT would go to America the answer was no. Then it changed to if he won he wouldn't travel. It shows that coming here was a very last minute decision. Even if he didn't win there was only an outside chance he's come here.

No, i'm not an insider, but i do know that there is doubt over him running at this point in time. Aidan O'brien has publicly said that the horse doesn't like soft ground and they will try and avoid it whenever possible.

The ground will be on the soft side on Saturday.

No, i don't know what they are going to do, i was told by a friend who works for coolmore in the States that there is a doubt if the rain comes, whether she is 'in the know' i'm not sure, but those words had come from Dermot Ryan, and that has been backed up on our racing channel today.

I'm not saying he won't run, but there is a doubt over him doing so.

So you're gullible when it concerns horse racing news. My mistake. I apologize.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

So you're gullible when it concerns horse racing news. My mistake. I apologize.

Well, i will believe close friends who have a connection with the horses rather than believe what 'joe blogs' says. If that makes me gullible then so be it.

Aidan O'Brien has said of the horses dislike of soft ground and will try and avoid it whenever they can. What Makes Monmouth's soft turf different to anywhere else?

It wasn't me who ever said the BC was unimportant, but the Coolmore team did imply that it wasn't so important with regards to this horse.

I hope he does run because i'd love to see him on the track once last time, all i have said is that there is a big chance of him not running, and i'm not in the minority over here by saying that. Many 'fans' are saying the same.

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Well, i will believe close friends who have a connection with the horses rather than believe what 'joe blogs' says. If that makes me gullible then so be it.

Hey I apologized. Why do you insist on baiting me into commenting again with this?

Steve...what do you want me to do? I can't control myself when stuff like this happens. This board is out of control with name dropping and insider info. It's borderline insanity what's going on. Any jagoff with an internet connection can register and claim they have good info because they know some guy behind the guy who combs a horsies hair. How can I rebut this nonsense without being nasty about it?

[NoChanceToDance]

You could at least act grown up about it. You're about 60, right? Yet you're acting like a 12 year old.

I love the fact you said "he'll run" yet gave no reasons why you are so sure. I'm under the impression that they are having doubts about running him and gave reasons.

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

You could at least act grown up about it. You're about 60, right? Yet you're acting like a 12 year old.

I love the fact you said "he'll run" yet gave no reasons why you are so sure. I'm under the impression that they are having doubts about running him and gave reasons.

"Your insight is that of a fan yet you're acting like an insider. You aren't. You don't know what they're going to do. I was mocking you."

[brockguy]

I dont really know if the point about this race being the plan for Dylan is as relevent as it might be for other horses. Sure, the Arc was barely even the plan for Dylan Thomas. All season, they basically ran him whenever he was fit and ready to go - they havent really stuck to a plan this year with him. I think it would have to be very very soft for them to scratch and even if it is soft, i think he'll win.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by brockguy

I dont really know if the point about this race being the plan for Dylan is as relevent as it might be for other horses. Sure, the Arc was barely even the plan for Dylan Thomas. All season, they basically ran him whenever he was fit and ready to go - they havent really stuck to a plan this year with him. I think it would have to be very very soft for them to scratch and even if it is soft, i think he'll win.

The Arc was the plan from early summer. King George and the Arc. The only concern for both races was the prosect of soft ground.

I just found it interesting that they never nominated this race, and specifically said that if he won the Arc, that would be it.

You say it will need to be very, very soft. There is every chance it could be judging by the forecast. If he does run and gets stuffed they will be gutted to go out on a low note, that certainly wouldn't be the plan.

[AeWingnut]

I don't know how much rain they are getting
I have read that the new turf drains better than
well really good.
The sharp turns may be the greater concern
problem is.. like brockguy said, 5 lengths slower and DT still wins