Joe says no

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

I have said this before.......Hossy said what I did.

I really don't understand the big deal here.











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Go South Florida!





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[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

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Oh you betcha!!...based on that quality loss to unranked, 4-2 Rootgars.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Oh you betcha!!...based on that quality loss to unranked, 4-2 Rootgars.

On second thought.........









nevermind!

[Thunder Gulch]

While I understand the outpouring of love for Torre and what he has done with the Yanks, let's not overrate him as a manager. He went to the Yankees with a sub 500 record and rode a $200 M payroll to some postseason success. Consider that only two other franchises regularly had payrolls half the size of the Yanks, and I don't know why he hasn't won more in the last 8 years.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

While I understand the outpouring of love for Torre and what he has done with the Yanks, let's not overrate him as a manager. He went to the Yankees with a sub 500 record and rode a $200 M payroll to some postseason success. Consider that only two other franchises regularly had payrolls half the size of the Yanks, and I don't know why he hasn't won more in the last 8 years.

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[Crown@club]

Buck Showalter - one of the most overrated managers now and in history. It was the right decision to let him walk to Zona. Obviously saw why in the first 2 seasons there, why he was overrated. I doubt he would have won a WS ring.

Girardi - Yanks love him. Steinbrenner loves him.
He told the owner in Florida that he needs to shut up during ball games and not get into umpires faces. Thats where it went downhill for Girardi.

Mattingly thinks he's not ready. He's a pretty grateful and honest guy. So with that mentioned it most likely is true.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Not to bring up this up again, but I saw this morning what the offer to Torre was. $5 million for the season, $1 million bonus if they make the playoffs, $1 million bonus if they make the ALCS and $1 bonus if they make the World Series. It's a performance based salary. Doesn't seem that unfair to me.

Some dogs just don't hunt,Hossy.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Not to bring up this up again, but I saw this morning what the offer to Torre was. $5 million for the season, $1 million bonus if they make the playoffs, $1 million bonus if they make the ALCS and $1 bonus if they make the World Series. It's a performance based salary. Doesn't seem that unfair to me.

He's made the playoff 12 straight years....been the manager the same time too.
The "fair" thing would have been to give him the same contract for two more years and then he would retired.
It would have also been the "classy" thing to do!

To me...it's all about "class" or lack there of.....................

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

He's made the playoff 12 straight years....been the manager the same time too.
The "fair" thing would have been to give him the same contract for two more years and then he would retired.
It would have also been the "classy" thing to do!

To me...it's all about "class" or lack there of.....................

FOR FAILING TO DO SO!!?

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

FOR FAILING TO DO SO!!?

Yes, my friend...Life is full of

















failures.

[Danzig]

i think instead of making a bullshit offer, they should have told joe thanks, but we're going to move in a new direction. we appreciate the last 12 years, they've been great. have a nice little send-off and that's that.

but apparently the two boys wanted everyone to understand without any doubt that it's business as usual in yankee-ville.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Hoff, again, it's a business thing. They don't owe him anything. Come on man. This is the real world. Wake up, rarely does a business do the "classy" thing, especially the Yankees. I am surprised at how shocked you are they did this. As a "true" Yankee fan, surely it couldn't have been that surprising.

Not shocked.....but do think it SUCKS!