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Old 10-15-2007, 03:08 PM
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Why can't they compete and if they cant GET OUT or find somebody who can develop a model which works not JERKS
Because the NYSRWB will not let them do rebate programs at the level that they would like, because of opposition from the OTBs.
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Old 10-15-2007, 03:14 PM
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Because the NYSRWB will not let them do rebate programs at the level that they would like, because of opposition from the OTBs.
Oh so now we are back to the state screwing the NYRA..

BTW is NYRA needs money whats the big deal with charging for stall space? If you are bankrupt and need money you had better start finding additional revenue from somewhere. Or should the tax payers just pay?

I will really bad for weathy owners having to pay 100 a month for a stall
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Old 10-15-2007, 03:24 PM
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Oh so now we are back to the state screwing the NYRA..

BTW is NYRA needs money whats the big deal with charging for stall space? If you are bankrupt and need money you had better start finding additional revenue from somewhere. Or should the tax payers just pay?

I will really bad for weathy owners having to pay 100 a month for a stall
No wealthy owners shouldn't have to pay that extra $5/day in dayrate. We all know horse ownership is a right of all americans and they shouldn't have to pay for it all. Let the middle-class pay for it with higher taxes. LOL

NYRA is a joke. Always has been, but that is what you get when you essentially have zero accountability. I can't wait for NYRA to pull out the "we are doing it for the children and education" or some lame pr stunt.
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Old 10-15-2007, 03:29 PM
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The costs of racing here in NY are already higher than other locales. If you raise the cost of doing business, the horsemen will take their horses elsewhere, and you can enjoy betting on small fields. Besides, most horsemen and owners are not the "wealthy" individuals you make them out to be.
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Old 10-15-2007, 03:36 PM
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The costs of racing here in NY are already higher than other locales. If you raise the cost of doing business, the horsemen will take their horses elsewhere, and you can enjoy betting on small fields. Besides, most horsemen and owners are not the "wealthy" individuals you make them out to be.
Your kidding right? Maybe your right maybe NYBreds mdn claiming 25's should race at Finger lakes...Maybe racing in NY should be 4 days a week...maybe the poor poor horse horsesman that spend 50k on a NY bred Freud or Precise End we should have a benefit for them.. You know what if you can't make a living trainering 5 claimers in NY MOVE
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Old 10-15-2007, 03:39 PM
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I thought that this board was for people who were fans of racing. You seem to have such disdain for everyone involved in the business. Why are you here?
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Old 10-15-2007, 03:41 PM
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I love racing I have NO disdain for racing at all. But come on with the poor owners routine. There is no such thing. If you can afford a race horse you can afford alot. The NYRA is a joke but I absolutely LOVE racing and horses.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:06 PM
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I'll take your word for it on your love of racing. I guess I'm coming from the viewpoint that NY, through its high parimutuel taxes and parisitic OTBs, is doing its best to try to prevent racing (forget about NYRA) from competing on a level playing field with other gambling enterprises (compare horse racing's takeout to the house's advantage at a casino), so I'm tired of the "we poor taxpayers are constantly bailing NYRA out" routine recently advanced by members of the NYS Senate.

Let's put it this way. Up here in Malta, the state has pledged over $1 billion dollars to build a plant that may - and I emphasize MAY - allow a Texas company to employ a couple of hundred workers. Meanwhile, the politicians seem hell-bent on playing games with a horse racing industry that employs over 40,000 New Yorkers. Even assuming that we don't fix the broken model (which everyone at the earliest stages of the franchise process agreed was broken), and the track operator needs a $20 million per year subsidy to ensure that those persons dependent on the industry remain in their jobs, that's far less than the state already takes out of the game, so I fail to see how the taxpayers are harmed in all this. And let's keep in mind that the numbers were talking about do not account at all for the income taxes that those working in the horse industry pay into the state coffers.
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:42 AM
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If you can afford a race horse you can afford alot.
Most hilarious post of the day. Thanks for the laugh fm.
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