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Old 10-15-2007, 11:25 AM
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Easy money unless BB decides to play the 2nd stringers in the 2nd half...

How does this game not wind up 42-10 or something like that?
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:27 AM
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16 1/2 now
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:01 PM
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Miami skunked NE at home last year.
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:12 PM
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Miami skunked NE at home last year.
These two teams have seemed to go in different directions since then. What happened to Miami's defense? Is the secondary really that bad?
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:22 PM
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Defense stinks. Secondary is awful, no pass rush and Jason Taylor looks 50 years old out there.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:13 PM
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Moss can have 0 catches and still be the most dominant player on the field if he attracts all the attention he's been getting in the last two games.

The more they double him and constantly role coverages his way the better off all the other players at the skill positions will be.

Has anyone seen how deep the safeties have been playing? I know NE has lost their starter and 2nd string RB, but I'm not so sure I couldn't be effective running in that offense.

With Moss and Brady healthy, the only way that offense can be stopped is if a defensive line (without the aid of blitzing linebackers) totally dominates NE's offensive line. The way the NE O-line has played, good luck with that.

This team will probably break the record for all-time points scored in a season. That record is held by the '98 Vikings, who went 15-1 in Randy Moss's rookie year, when he had 17 TD's while offically starting just 11 games...that before teams figured out all the clever schemes to stop him.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:32 PM
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I disagree, the way to stop this offense is with a solid secondary. If you can play up on every reciever but randy(It's possible) and then either drop in a lb underneath or a safety over the top, your going to create easy blitz situations. The pressure will not allow the recievers to get into double moves or field stretching patterns. If you just sit back and play any type of zone or cover two... brady is going to pick you apart. It's just like peyton manning, you don't just rush four and hope someone gets lucky and gets to him. You have to take calculated risks and try to force him into something stupid. They both are simply too smart and too accurate to play any type of zone defense.
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Old 10-17-2007, 08:21 PM
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These two teams have seemed to go in different directions since then. What happened to Miami's defense? Is the secondary really that bad?
not only bad but the defense on a hold is old.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:11 PM
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Easy money unless BB decides to play the 2nd stringers in the 2nd half...

How does this game not wind up 42-10 or something like that?
Considering the touchdown they scored on 4th down at the end of the game Sunday, I don't think you have to worry about Bellicheck's not wanting to run up the score.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:02 PM
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Considering the touchdown they scored on 4th down at the end of the game Sunday, I don't think you have to worry about Bellicheck's not wanting to run up the score.
Or the bomb for a TD they threw to Moss in the 4th quarter against the Bills when the Bills were effectively taking a knee and running out the clock.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:18 PM
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stephen a smith commented on the accusations that the pats ran up the score at dallas. i agreed with what he said. that if dallas just wanted the game over, they shouldn't have called time out with 1 1/2 minutes left for one...more to the point, you don't want the other team to score--don't let them!
also enjoyed his take on the whole popcorn thing. funny stuff.
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cannon goes to the well again...lol
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:49 PM
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I don't remember writing that you should blitz all the time. I said you had to take calculated risks. Randy moss is a game breaker, dante stallworth is above average but nothing special. I can think of more then a few corners who could take stallworth in man coverage. I can think of zero that could take randy moss. The whole key is to force brady into bad throws. If you don't bring pressure, his mistakes will be few and far between. You have to give him diffrent looks, stunts, twists etc up front. The pats offensive is solid so you cant just hope your front 4 get pressure. Mix it up bring safeties, corners, backers, whatever just keep mixing it up and stay out of some weak gap zone.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:52 PM
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JJP. Welker is a nice reciever but nothing special. I call it the brandon stokely reciever. Put an average reciever with two above average reciever( such as stokely the last few years in indy) and he is going to put up numbers simply because coverages are being rolled to the outside to shut the recievers down.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:59 PM
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Mix it up bring safeties, corners, backers, whatever just keep mixing it up and stay out of some weak gap zone.
Those guys are needed in assignments....if they get stopped on offense, it will be because a defensive line dominates the NE O-line and takes over the game.

You can't be serious about blitzing with safeties.....
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:54 PM
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Or the bomb for a TD they threw to Moss in the 4th quarter against the Bills when the Bills were effectively taking a knee and running out the clock.
There was over 10 minutes left in that game when that happened! And whoever was covering Moss on the play had perfect coverage.

I don't think they are running up the score at all.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:58 PM
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There was over 10 minutes left in that game when that happened! And whoever was covering Moss on the play had perfect coverage.

I don't think they are running up the score at all.
It was second and 1 and they were running down the Bills throat at that point. Not blatantly running up the score but a sign that Bellichick isn't afraid to pile the points on.
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:23 PM
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There was over 10 minutes left in that game when that happened! And whoever was covering Moss on the play had perfect coverage.

I don't think they are running up the score at all.
There is no such thing as running up the score in the pros...the losers get paid for 60 minutes...if they suck, that is their problem.
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