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Old 10-13-2007, 07:23 PM
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I disagree, wouldnt you think that with more and more defections lots of grade 2 and grade 3 types will just be waiting in the wings?? I mean a million or 2 million bucks is worth a stab.
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Old 10-13-2007, 07:32 PM
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Old 10-14-2007, 10:23 AM
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Don't always agree with Crist, but he's on the money this time. The Breeders' Cup PR has consistently missed the mark. First the "World Championships" addition is pure crap. How many champions from the Southern Hemisphere show up? North American/European championship at best, and often enough these days, the best Euros give it a pass and the second tier (Red Rocks) show up.

Win and you're in would have a reason for being if and only if (sorry, a little math talk there) by winning, horses who weren't nominated and/or whose sire wasn't nominated could get the supplemental fees waived so they could be included in the field based on their points.

Actually, the whole idea of the Breeders' Cup as a championship of any kind leaves a bad taste in my mouth. In the past, the entire campaign mattered - like NASCAR or PGA, you racked up a number of wins and close finishes to become a champion. Tiger Woods is the best golfer, even if he doesn't win the Masters this year. Easy Goer was champion 2yo of his year, even thought he lost the Juvie. Promoting the BC as a championship like the Final Four or some other playoff format takes interest away from the racing the rest of the year. Like I said, the BC PR people don't seem to be all that on the ball to me.
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:43 AM
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There's more Stakes and Graded races carded during their 4 day meet than for any BC since the 1999 3 day meet at Gulfstream-which I think was all Stakes.

Aside from the 11 Breeders' Cup races-there are around 14 other Graded/Stakes races from Wednesday to Saturday.

In one sense I'm glad they've beefed Friday up. The card for last years day before BC at Churchill was a joke. The day lasted around 6 hours from 1st till last race and all we got were 2 Grade 3 and a hatful of Claiming races.

Next year is the test for the event. Can they remind the Europeans that they had their best ever meet the last time the BC was held in California-2 wins and 1 DH and even more importantly can they convince Asian connections to ship over.
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Old 10-14-2007, 12:23 PM
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not sure how much luck you'd have getting the asians to come over, the purses at home are pretty high. why travel so far when you can make tons at home? they don't seem to show much interest in dubai either. of course they have changed a little, with runners coming to the american derby for instance. give them time.

as for the bc, it's given too much credit, as is the derby, as far as year-end voting.

rather than win and you're in, there should be a points series, not just aim for one race to get in, and those with the most points get their championship. anything is better than voting. especially when the voters don't even know many of the horses that are running.
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