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Old 09-21-2007, 04:15 PM
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i have no ties to NYRA but as i stated i agree with him on the original post. please tell me what circuit offers better racing consistantly through the year. answer: none. the only time racing is inferior up here is the dead of winter. thats because all the major players go south to gulfstream. people with money don't like cold weather. if it were not for that fact magna would probably have gulfstream park for sale too! as for the bankrupcy, its being fixed . it was a poor business model that needed updating. NYRA in the summer is a boom to my city and all of upstate. Face it folks their superior product brings alot $$$$ to new york , forget NYRA's bottom line. which is the part i like anyway. They don't need to be in it for a ton of profit. If you don't like paying 3 bucks to get in, 5 on travers day, low take outs and the fastest horses in the world. Go ahead see how fast one these other operations screw it up for the average bettor. Australian racing ...lol.. i've watched it . looks like they're running in a backyard pasture. when they can beat the likes of Invasor or Rags to Riches maybe i'll listen to them.
Big A runs for 6.5 months a year and that is inferior alone, not just dead of winter. Big A has about 2 races that anyone else other than regulars in NY watch and those are the Cigar Mile and the Wood.

As for Australia, Invasor might have done well there, but RTR would have been blown away, IMO.

Neither of the horses you mentioned could have beaten Makybe Diva at any distance. Within a span of 2 months she won from 7F to 2 miles, and won 2 races in between that, any she didnt get to race against tiny fields either.

The races you must have seen from Australia were Prov. tracks, mid week, similar to TDN or TurP here.
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Old 09-22-2007, 08:23 AM
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Big A runs for 6.5 months a year and that is inferior alone, not just dead of winter. Big A has about 2 races that anyone else other than regulars in NY watch and those are the Cigar Mile and the Wood.

As for Australia, Invasor might have done well there, but RTR would have been blown away, IMO.

Neither of the horses you mentioned could have beaten Makybe Diva at any distance. Within a span of 2 months she won from 7F to 2 miles, and won 2 races in between that, any she didnt get to race against tiny fields either.

The races you must have seen from Australia were Prov. tracks, mid week, similar to TDN or TurP here.
aqueduct is not that bad. especially that time of the year. look at california, their racing is going downhill, small fields, and horses that are not competeing well at the top level. Student council can go there and win grade 1. and the 3 yo's were crap again this year.. other than Rags to riches who crushed the california circuit before heading east. that brings me to the poly track which at keenland and del mar is a farce. those meets are pretty much ruined except for grass . so watch ny get even better horses. you are right i was watching mid week so i don't know much about their racing. but in international competition they don't win much. where on the dirt surface we pretty much "clean house ". so you really don't know how fast they are against top comp. i could care less about how many different distances you win at if the horse is good and is running against inferior horses of course that horse will win everthing. how many dirt races have they won at dubai. where we come in 1st , 2nd and 3rd in many . i don't see the shieks buying some australian horse to try and win the sprint race they went right for Diabolical. any one that thinks our dirt horses don't dominate is crazy

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