Am I Wrong?

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Let me ask you something. Just because you hear stuff, does that mean it's true? Have you ever been to New Orleans? And no one asked for your sympathy. But you seem to want sympathy because you had no power last year because of snow. Come on. Hitting the sauce tonight?

No Hoss...Just a real sensitive topic with me. I just read his post again and made a little more sense out of it and was attempting to respond in a little more of a resonable manner but since you ask....

1. Two years ago(before the flood) I had family members who have traveled the country together tell me that New Orleans was by far the most disgusting city they've ever visited.

2. My power was fine during the storm because Fort Plain is not in the snowbelt. I have several people I know that live in those areas. But, as I'm sure you remember we were hit with a blizzard in February. But, unlike the people in New Orleans, we prepared for it.

3. You've never heard me ask for sympathy and most likely never will.

[fpsoxfan]

FG FAN,

I re-read your post and my apologies. I'm sure it must have been awful to experience what you did. Nobody deserves what you and the people of New Orleans went through. I remember how helpless I felt watching the whole thing unfold in front of me on TV. There were some real acts of heroism during that entire ordeal. I can't help to think of what it was like for those folks in that retirement/nursing home. What an awful way to die. There are many things that went wrong with that whole catastrophe, but to play the blame game and biatch and moan and try to get hard working american people to feel sorry for lazy people is a little hard to take.

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

FG FAN,

I re-read your post and my apologies. I'm sure it must have been awful to experience what you did. Nobody deserves what you and the people of New Orleans went through. I remember how helpless I felt watching the whole thing unfold in front of me on TV. There were some real acts of heroism during that entire ordeal. I can't help to think of what it was like for those folks in that retirement/nursing home. What an awful way to die. There are many things that went wrong with that whole catastrophe, but to play the blame game and biatch and moan and try to get hard working american people to feel sorry for lazy people is a little hard to take.

fpsoxfan,
Thank you for re-reading my original post. I saw that after I posted to your post.
Anyway, I absolutely agree with you about the handouts, it's the same people that got them before bitching about getting them now.

Funny thing is while us and many of our friends were in disasters areas 1. most of us didn't need help because we were prepared, and 2. we don't live off the system so we dont know how to get it, seriously we are really dumb about it.
I have no sympathy for the people screaming for the housing projects. ( then again if they opened them back up we would know where the crime is, now it's just all over the city)
But like I said 1.5 milion people evacuated, hard working people who paid dearly for insurance only to get screwed. One man raised his house 20 ft. out of pocket and because FEMA had not made the flood maps yet, he will not be reimbursed. So many have moved over here to my little 6 red light town we now have traffic jams, I am in the country. It all happened so fast you can't keep up with roads, and infrastructure.
it's all crazy here, every day. The talking heads keep talking, the hard working folks just keep working and we send money to Baghdad everyday.
AND do not get me wrong, I certainly support our troops, not the war in the wrong country.
Katrina/Rita and now all this flooding in the midwest is a wake up call that we really need to take care of our own, especially the hard working people that just keep plugging along.
The nursing home is an absolute disgrace..I hope those people rot in hell for leaving those old people there.
And the animals, I responded as a vet tech. another disgrace.
It is hard to judge when you don't live here and even harder when you do. I will never understand how this all happened in my beloved country.

[estreetposse]

Might help if Dubya brought back some of the Nat Guard & equipment don't ya think?

Wasn't it this spring when the tornadoes ripped thru the midwest and they could do **** because the only about 40% of the NG equipment(dozers, loaders, personel) still remained in the US...the rest were rebuilding what we have destroyed in Iraq. Billions to build a country we don't belong in and $000
to help our own good folk and even the bad in our own USA.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by estreetposse

Might help if Dubya brought back some of the Nat Guard & equipment don't ya think?

Wasn't it this spring when the tornadoes ripped thru the midwest and they could do **** because the only about 40% of the NG equipment(dozers, loaders, personel) still remained in the US...the rest were rebuilding what we have destroyed in Iraq. Billions to build a country we don't belong in and $000
to help our own good folk and even the bad in our own USA.

DID you help during our flood. No,you were drinking beer. So take your dozer and pipe down. Are you golfing tomorrow?

[estreetposse]

The Mohawk & Otsquago don't compare to the Gulf of Mexico, Mississippi, Cat. 4 or 5 hurricanes...and damn right I was drinking beer...didn't want it to get warm!!!

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by estreetposse

and damn right I was drinking beer...didn't want it to get warm!!!

sacreligious to drink warm beer.
This thread made me get a cold one.
Got to stay off these political threads.
How are the tigers doing?

[Cajungator26]

LSU is shutting the Bulldogs out so far 24-0. They've still got 5 minutes left in the 3rd quarter.

[estreetposse]

Originally Posted by FGFan

sacreligious to drink warm beer.
This thread made me get a cold one.
Got to stay off these political threads.
How are the tigers doing?

Me too...no more politics tonight...just tastes great vs. less filling!!

[Cajungator26]

Touchdown LSU!

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by estreetposse

Me too...no more politics tonight...just tastes great vs. less filling!!

For you & fpsoxfan...it's down to "5" !

great card for Saturday...anybody want to go over???

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by estreetposse

The Mohawk & Otsquago don't compare to the Gulf of Mexico, Mississippi, Cat. 4 or 5 hurricanes...and damn right I was drinking beer...didn't want it to get warm!!!

Don't tell that to Emery Giovannone!

http://capitalnewsnine.com/content/h...33&ArID=219133

Used to just love all his letters to the editor about how everything is wrong in this country...he should be happy now!

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I had heard the same things about New Orleans. I went and then made up my mind based on what I had seen, not heard. I think part of what you fail to realize, or even accept is that a good portion of the people you are describing are dirt poor. When you barely have a pot to piss in, it's kind of tough to prepare for stuff. I won't begin to try and figure out why they are poor, although you seem to have made up your mind.

It's a tough situation, but one in which so many peoples lives were destroyed. Of course the looting and stuff was completely wrong. There is no explanation other than people suck. But people did and still suffer there. It's just not an easy fix and I certainly don't have the answers, but I really don't see the animosity towards people that lost their homes, lives and family members. Why so sensitive towards something like this?

Hoss, face it man we aren't going to come to complete agreement on this.
Sensitive. Could be many things, but I've been fired up about this since it happened. Almost got booted out of a family Labor Day picnic two years ago when this happened. The arrogance of the mayor and the absolute stupidity of the Governor for starters. The looting, rape, rioting, etc. don't sit well with me either. Not to mention the stupidity of many of the residents who could've gotten out an didn't. I'm sure there were many hardworking residents who suffered catostrophic losses and I do feel for them. Of course I'm sure many people think I'm just being racist. That's not the case. I'd feel the same way if it was a city of whites, greens, yellows, etc.