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Old 08-07-2007, 01:02 PM
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They are not choosing to re invest into the sport because of the domination of certain big organisations. Owners have to make a living, no matter how big or small they are. Some of them get a nice horse and it gets snatched away from them.

It happens on a weekly basis over here.

If we didn't have Godolphin it wouldn't happen.

They apparently have a superb breeding organisation, so why don't they put faith into it and use the home bred horses? Instead of buying everyone else's? It is drawing the public away from racing, following nice horses until they get bought and then they disappear into a big blue hole.

They have no plan, just just try and buy themselves out of trouble, and so far it hasn't worked, and i doubt it ever will work with the money they spend and the fact they don't seem to put any faith in their breeding operation.

They need to sort themsleves out before they get left too far behind by Coolmore and Juddmonte.

Juddmonte do a fantastic job, they don't have to rely on other people's horses or other people's yearlings. But they too have the money to do so if they liked. Each year they have a successful one, doesn't this tell Godolphin/Darley anything. Doesn't it tell them that they are failing to run a business.

They seem to be unable to runa business and unable to train racehorses.

They have ruined the economy of Newmarket, they promised hundreds of jobs, where were they?

In America they have a different set up, and they succeed. While Crisford and Ferguson are at the head of affairs, the Godolphin downfall will continue.

That is all i have say.

Please feel free to visit Newmarket anytime you like and you will see what i'm talking about.

At the end of the day, i think this article is a really good piece of writing from a factual point of view. If anyone knows the Observer that well, they will know that this paper isn't the sort to write nonsense and not be able to back it's comments up.

Not opinion, but fact.

I'm done.
To be honest, I got the sense the article was based more than anything on disgruntled former employee points of view. Your friend, the former Goldolphin employee... was he let go or move on for better opportunity?
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:18 PM
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To be honest, I got the sense the article was based more than anything on disgruntled former employee points of view. Your friend, the former Goldolphin employee... was he let go or move on for better opportunity?
He went because was sick of the conflict between management he has moved to another management role away from racing.

The article was well written, and to my knowledge, the only former employees that gave opinions were those tha had left before things got bad there.

Vince (Smith) trains on his own now.

I still have two friends that are working there as work riders and both are training to do different things (one a farrier and the other a stock broker) to get away from it all.

Sniper - it is ruining the fun for the smaller owners. The money is certainly a bonus for them, but it ruins the fun of seeing their good horses run in their own silks and it stops them from going into ownership again for the majority of them.

Godolphin have far too much greed for their own good, and it is backfiring on them.

Reduce the buying of horses, reduce the size of the string, have a major management shake up, and they might be getting somewhere.

I would love to see them compete at racing level with Coolmore and Juddmonte, but they are failing to do that at the moment, but with the money and staff they have....... why? ask yourselves that.
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:21 PM
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Sniper - it is ruining the fun for the smaller owners. The money is certainly a bonus for them, but it ruins the fun of seeing their good horses run in their own silks and it stops them from going into ownership again for the majority of them.
If they are in it for the fun then they have every right to not take the money and run. Don't make them out to be victims.

For all the bashing that Jamie Sanders deservedly gets for her placement of horses at least she had the balls to tell people to F off when they wanted to vastly overpay for Teuflesberg.
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:30 PM
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If they are in it for the fun then they have every right to not take the money and run. Don't make them out to be victims.

For all the bashing that Jamie Sanders deservedly gets for her placement of horses at least she had the balls to tell people to F off when they wanted to vastly overpay for Teuflesberg.
I wish we had owners with that mentality, but sadly we don't. But having said that if Godolphin were not around, these purchases would be very rare, indeed.
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