Del Mar

Good job! There is nothing more enjoyable than congratulating someone on here who boasts they've hit so and so AFTER THE FACT.

Hoorah.
















































































































*crickets*

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by whodey17

man great job - and why cant you people just be happy for the guy.

I don't play pick 6's, and don't pay attention often to any of the pick 3, 4 or 6 plays.

So, I may be wrong.

But, if I am reading the Del Mar charts correctly, 6 winners also had OneBadBeast's hit in the first leg of the Pick 6 to collect a $112,000+ win?

[King Glorious]

Ok, I just read the charts from yesterday at Del Mar. Please tell me that there is an error on there. Please tell me that Buzzard's Bay, whom I've never thought too highly of but also never thought of as complete garbage, didn't LEAD the San Diego through fractions of 24.54, 49.46 and 1:14.06 and STILL couldn't hold on, finishing 8th, beaten more than 13 lengths. I can't believe that is how that race unfolded. Anytime a horse that's a graded stakes winner is allowed to lead a race in 49 and change and 1:14 and change on the dirt, they should be conceded the victory right then and there, especially in a race that's only 8.5f. What the hell happened? How does a horse that was absolutely last for 6f close to win going away after those kind of fractions? What the hell is going on?

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

its not a joke of a track, its actually a friggen great place which is hard to describe unless you have been there.....

that being said the polycrap sucks. I dont want to sound like sour grapes but I have been betting socal since I was a kid and know what the **** I am doing and betting on, but this **** is sickening. Today was the most fair day yet but its just random guessing on the long shots.

I heard brad free say spread in the multi race plays but its hard to go 10x10x10

what good is sounder horses if you cant handicap them? The crux of the game is still betting and sound horses wont mean much if you cant come close to breaking even.

I am actually up so far this week thank god to the turf, if they remove that I might be done forever.

.........being born and raised in so. cal. i have been many times since 1986. del mar is great to have cocktails and check out the most beautiful woman you will ever see at a racetrack by a country mile.......but as far as the racing itself, i have always felt del mar is very overrated.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Ok, I just read the charts from yesterday at Del Mar. Please tell me that there is an error on there. Please tell me that Buzzard's Bay, whom I've never thought too highly of but also never thought of as complete garbage, didn't LEAD the San Diego through fractions of 24.54, 49.46 and 1:14.06 and STILL couldn't hold on, finishing 8th, beaten more than 13 lengths. I can't believe that is how that race unfolded. Anytime a horse that's a graded stakes winner is allowed to lead a race in 49 and change and 1:14 and change on the dirt, they should be conceded the victory right then and there, especially in a race that's only 8.5f. What the hell happened? How does a horse that was absolutely last for 6f close to win going away after those kind of fractions? What the hell is going on?

the track was realtively fair yesterday so this is strictly a case of the horse hating the track.

kind of ironic as they skipped the Gold Cup, where the pace was slowish, for this spot.

I do think it is MUCH tougher to wire around two turns rather then 1.

Looking at the race though there were 7 horses withing a length or two of winnning, that tells me that the surface makes it that screwed up and we know nothing more now then we did before the race so what good is it as a handicapper?

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

What the hell happened? How does a horse that was absolutely last for 6f close to win going away after those kind of fractions? What the hell is going on?

FWIW, I read somewhere yesterday that one of the jockeys said the track is playing well for the horse that has "one run." Paraphrasing, he said he believed that any horse that has to work hard during the race to maintain a position is more likely to wear down and tire in the polytrack.

Another FWIW is that I read in advance elsewhere from Sun Boat's trainer that they were planning to go with the late run strategy. The trainer of Buzzard's Bay was quoted somewhere as saying they were going for the lead early and often (paraphrased).


The jockeys are still going to school on the strategy poly at Del Mar.

[ELA]

Nice hit. I've been watching very closely, until of course I leave for the Spa, LOL. I've also spoke with several jocks, trainers, etc. -- and I am liking what I see of the new surface. Just like with most of the others that have gone in, there will be a work in progress and life cycle to it. A major rain storm, a flood, whatever -- stuff happens to dirt, turf, synthetic, and so on.

As far as the redboard -- like I said, nice hit. I think too many people make too big a deal.

Eric

[ELA]

Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

FWIW, I read somewhere yesterday that one of the jockeys said the track is playing well for the horse that has "one run." Paraphrasing, he said he believed that any horse that has to work hard during the race to maintain a position is more likely to wear down and tire in the polytrack.

Another FWIW is that I read in advance elsewhere from Sun Boat's trainer that they were planning to go with the late run strategy. The trainer of Buzzard's Bay was quoted somewhere as saying they were going for the lead early and often (paraphrased).


The jockeys are still going to school on the strategy poly at Del Mar.

Migliore and Nakatani recently commented in detail about what the track is playing like. Migliore is a great on-track strategist, and a very "intelligent" rider -- what he says about the track, how it's playing, strategy, etc. can offer a great deal of insight.

I've heard people say the bias, and the comings and goings, are the same, and I've heard others say exactly the opposite.

Eric

[estreetposse]

Nice hit...but I am curious to your doubters...when I go to the Spa on Wednesday and see a bomb that I like...but don't run home to post it on here first and it comes in...when I come home that night to post my hit...am I redboarding as well?

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by estreetposse

Nice hit...but I am curious to your doubters...when I go to the Spa on Wednesday and see a bomb that I like...but don't run home to post it on here first and it comes in...when I come home that night to post my hit...am I redboarding as well?

The doubters are the ones who blame the surface,trainer,jockey,weather,everything but their own handicapping.These are the people who need to spend 5000.00 on a pick 6 ticket,but think something is suspicious when someone wins on a 16 dollar ticket.They couldn't pick APPLES,much less a horse to win.These are the people you should just ignore!!! That is who the doubters are!!

Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

The doubters are the ones who blame the surface,trainer,jockey,weather,everything but their own handicapping.These are the people who need to spend 5000.00 on a pick 6 ticket,but think something is suspicious when someone wins on a 16 dollar ticket.They couldn't pick APPLES,much less a horse to win.These are the people you should just ignore!!! That is who the doubters are!!

Did OBB send you the check yet?

[Rootdog1]

I had the exacta...didnt want to redboard but what the hell. Here is the TvG wager history from yesterday


7/21/2007 4:11 PM F420273370E2 Del Mar Thoroughbred Club 5 $1 EX BX,1,5,8,12,14 ONLINE $20.00 $698.80

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Did OBB send you the check yet?

Not yet.

[Indian Charlie]

why do people on boards get so pissy about people that post what they hit?

i gotta believe that people that rarely 'redboard' arent actually redboarding at all, but just happy.

either way, who cares

I really don't have a problem with redboarding, I have a problem with it being spread through both forums (selections and here) and thread titles being ambiguous (Del Mar). I don't want to read the crap if I don't have to.

I would be all for a redboarding/low self-esteem/who gives a sh.it forum where everyone can go to brag on themselves. If you're not going to post picks on a regular basis, and you insist on being the ******* at the track who doesn't inform his buddies of who he likes until after the fact (and only when their pick wins), then don't be surprised when you get a little heat from it.

[GPK]

a redboarding forum?!?!? I like it

OOOOO.5

[Scav]

The DUDE abides

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Ok, I just read the charts from yesterday at Del Mar. Please tell me that there is an error on there. Please tell me that Buzzard's Bay, whom I've never thought too highly of but also never thought of as complete garbage, didn't LEAD the San Diego through fractions of 24.54, 49.46 and 1:14.06 and STILL couldn't hold on, finishing 8th, beaten more than 13 lengths. I can't believe that is how that race unfolded. Anytime a horse that's a graded stakes winner is allowed to lead a race in 49 and change and 1:14 and change on the dirt, they should be conceded the victory right then and there, especially in a race that's only 8.5f. What the hell happened? How does a horse that was absolutely last for 6f close to win going away after those kind of fractions? What the hell is going on?

yes he did a brilliant stiff of the fave..

and as for the reboarding..if you hit it congrats..but many here get alot of crap when they put out picks that dont pan out...so sence all dters are good people if you liked the horse put it on the board so others can get on it....in advance...

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Ok, I just read the charts from yesterday at Del Mar. Please tell me that there is an error on there. Please tell me that Buzzard's Bay, whom I've never thought too highly of but also never thought of as complete garbage, didn't LEAD the San Diego through fractions of 24.54, 49.46 and 1:14.06 and STILL couldn't hold on, finishing 8th, beaten more than 13 lengths. I can't believe that is how that race unfolded. Anytime a horse that's a graded stakes winner is allowed to lead a race in 49 and change and 1:14 and change on the dirt, they should be conceded the victory right then and there, especially in a race that's only 8.5f. What the hell happened? How does a horse that was absolutely last for 6f close to win going away after those kind of fractions? What the hell is going on?

Well if you subtract 2 seconds since every race seems to be run 2 seconds slower.....then on a cushion or dirt track those fractions would probably be 22.54 and 47.46

[onebadbeast]

Its Called Gambling! Today Bet Losers All Day. Do You Want Me To Post The Losers? The Payouts Are Double That Of Australia, If U Get Them. Its A Gambling Junkies Paradise. I Dont Care What U Say If U Think U Can Handicap This Track You Are Crazy.