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Old 07-13-2007, 01:01 PM
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The Bobby Frankels of the world are killing the field size in New York and elsewhere. They draw 75 for a 9 race card and there's 15 scratches.
You should have more horsemen like Bobby. He doesn't run lame horse, or ones that are sick just to run. You guys crack me up with your arm chair training licences.
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:11 PM
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It's an opinion, and an opinion that many, many share. If we had more horseman like Bobby, more tracks would be shutting down because of field size. Would you disagree that he doesn't scratch a lot?
A trainer that makes at least 17 million a year seems to understand where his best chances are. He scratches like anyone else does, just that he is alot smarter than most. I measure success, not how many scatches one makes. I don't think he is thinking of the player when he scatches, but the players are always talking trash about him, he doesn't care what people say about him.
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:17 PM
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You didn't answer my question.
That is your opinion. I think he scatches as much as he needs to. It is part of the game. What is more, or allot?? 3, 4, 5 10, what number you trying to put on things with no meaning at all.
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:42 PM
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I never asked for a number, I just asked your opinion. I think he scratches more than anyone I have ever seen. You can make excuses for it, fine. But it ultimately hurts racing by having reduced fields. You do decide to use a number when saying he makes at least 17 million a year. Shouldn't he be doing this? Does he not get great stock? When you get horses from Stronach, Juddmonte, etc you better be making money or you won't be getting those horses.
Pletcher has great stock too, but neither one has a Derby under their belt. Great Stock can go down just as fast as any other horse if poorly trained. If you think short fields are caused by Bobby Frankel, we are in trouble. Frankel doesn't even race allot in NY to make a difference in the field size. Most races in NY are for State breds now. AQU has the shortest fields in the country, and Frankel doesn't run their. Believe me, I hear this about Bobby all the time, it's normally someone who wanted to bet his horse that was scratched. What is his win percentage, that's what counts.
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:52 PM
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Pletcher has great stock too, but neither one has a Derby under their belt. Great Stock can go down just as fast as any other horse if poorly trained. If you think short fields are caused by Bobby Frankel, we are in trouble. Frankel doesn't even race allot in NY to make a difference in the field size. Most races in NY are for State breds now. AQU has the shortest fields in the country, and Frankel doesn't run their. Believe me, I hear this about Bobby all the time, it's normally someone who wanted to bet his horse that was scratched. What is his win percentage, that's what counts.
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:54 PM
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I never said Frankel is the only reason for small fields. But, with his obnoxious scratching, he doesn't help. You are right, he doesn't race a lot in NY, but he has plenty of stalls. For what? Other than trolling for a fight, what is your point here? That Frankel doesn't scratch a lot? Well, you are wrong.
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