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Old 07-08-2007, 08:37 AM
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Timm,
Here is what a real general has to say.
http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/index....groundid=00192

I wonder what Sgt Pendry would have to say to Gen Odom.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:15 AM
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Tim, that was a good blog from the military guy, It was sad though.


I've said time and time again (not on DT, i rarely post politics) that the US media is just giving the terrorists more reason to fight by exposing and then totally focusing on whatever error our military creates.

Instead they should be focusing on supporting the troops and keeping things confidential when it comes to military secrets.

I wrote CNN emails telling them they are supporting the beheadings of captured US workers in Iraq by broadcasting nonstop on the Abu Ghraib Prison scandal.

The media doesnt care who dies, they just want their headlines.


I also totally agree with Hossy and Kev regarding career politicians and the corruption of the government / the dem vs repub thing.

Politicians today are the most disgusting people out there, all they care about is getting re-elected and campaign funding. Its gross, they should all be ashamed.

This country was founded by men who were career Farmers, or Military, or another occupation. Politics was not their career, it was their way of giving the people a voice and doing what is right for a nation.

Today, Politics is just a money driven career. I dont think they really care about the people.

I am conservative with my politics, but I cannot stand this current (and past 6 years) adminstration. They have caused me to become 'independent', because Bush is not a real republican, he is more about 'big government' than anyone and I am very disappointed in the republicans when they controlled washington.

I wish Republicans and Democrats did not argue about EVERYTHING. Dont you think most issues should be agreed upon through common sense?? Why must it always be about two sides fighting, instead of doing what is right for our country.

It is all pathetic.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:24 AM
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Wisdom requires that one consider both sides of a debate.

http://www.hoover.org/publications/digest/2920101.html

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/...d_vietnam.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1308349,00.html
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:47 AM
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Ok Sham,
I read the links you put up.
The first one, dated Sept 4, 2005, is no longer current. Circumstances have changed during the interim.
The second one, May 2006, spells out a rationale for the invasion and occupation, "a resource rich region". Why not just say oil? Oh, and it also trots out the "domino theory"...'nuf said.
The third one, Sept 20, 2004...ummm, can we stick to "current events"?
Blair has been replaced by Brown.
Old PR and justifications don't seem to be effective given the circumstances of July 8, 2007.

Question...how can the US military gain "victory" in a civil war, and what will be necessary to sustain that "victory"?
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:57 AM
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Ok Sham,


Question...how can the US military gain "victory" in a civil war, and what will be necessary to sustain that "victory"?

This is now a RELIGIOUS WAR, not a civil war...and NOBODY wins in a religious war...it's been going on since the Crusades (or longer). Our US Army can not stop this Muslim religious war. IMO
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Old 07-08-2007, 10:07 AM
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This is now a RELIGIOUS WAR, not a civil war...and NOBODY wins in a religious war...it's been going on since the Crusades (or longer). Our US Army can not stop this Muslim religious war. IMO
That's an interesting point.
Actually, some no longer call it a "war" as it's an occupation involved in "peace keeping".
Back to the question of "victory"...how many more military lives will be taken to gain "it", and what will it look like?
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Old 07-08-2007, 10:48 AM
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Here is a more recent article that does a nice job of pointing out the reasons to remain engaged in Iraq by those that consider such as the proper course of action. I personally have no predominant opinion and concede insufficient wisdom to know the best path for our nation. To me, it looks like "damned if you don't...damned if you do". I think it's inevitable that the US will be forced to take a major stand against radical Islam in some place at some point in time.

http://bcsia.ksg.harvard.edu/publica...e&item_id=1711
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Old 07-08-2007, 05:39 PM
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Timm,
Here is what a real general has to say.
http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/index....groundid=00192

I wonder what Sgt Pendry would have to say to Gen Odom.
A "real" General that's 22 yrs removed from active service? Isn't that like a generation? The media is biased to the left in case you haven't seen the latest polls. Pendry would probably tell Odom that he's a cowardly POS,imo!
My mistake...Pendry was a Sgt. Major.

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