free speech takes a hit

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Seriously, if the Wiccans turned in the paperwork,I'm sure they would be dealt with fairly! I was in a little church long ago, and we approached the Vons company about charitable groceries for some families. And,although the Company was run by a family of Catholics, they still gave a station wagon full of groceries to our request!

If Bush feels (and I'm going by his own words) that he can determine whether another person's beliefs are valid or not then how can you expect him to treat Wicca or other pagan religions fairly?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

If Bush feels (and I'm going by his own words) that he can determine whether another person's beliefs are valid or not then how can you expect him to treat Wicca or other pagan religions fairly?

Somer : do you honestly believe that Bush himself goes over the list. Do you,in fact, know if any Wiccan Organization has been turned down,or for that matter requested such aid? I'm not looking to argue,but let's not put the cart before the horse!

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Somer : do you honestly believe that Bush himself goes over the list. Do you,in fact, know if any Wiccan Organization has been turned down,or for that matter requested such aid? I'm not looking to argue,but let's not put the cart before the horse!

Don't be naive, Bush doesn't have to personally go over the list, he has hundreds of like-thinking cronies to do his dirty work. I know about the Wiccan soldiers who died in Iraq, their families weren't allowed to place Wiccan religious symbols on their tombstones. I know Bush stated to ABC that he doesn't think Wicca is a religion. I know his buddy Strom Thurman said it should be banned in the military and compared it to Satanism and cults. I doubt Bush has the slightest idea what Wicca or Witchcraft if you prefer is all about, what we believe etc.

[timmgirvan]

Naivete aside...you gotta fill out the paperwork before you get the goods!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Don't be naive, Bush doesn't have to personally go over the list, he has hundreds of like-thinking cronies to do his dirty work. I know about the Wiccan soldiers who died in Iraq, their families weren't allowed to place Wiccan religious symbols on their tombstones. I know Bush stated to ABC that he doesn't think Wicca is a religion. I know his buddy Strom Thurman said it should be banned in the military and compared it to Satanism and cults. I doubt Bush has the slightest idea what Wicca or Witchcraft if you prefer is all about, what we believe etc.

they have changed their stance, and the wiccan symbols have been allowed.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

they have changed their stance, and the wiccan symbols have been allowed.

Don't confuse him with the facts!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Don't confuse him with the facts!

well, just wasn't sure if somer saw that the wiccan religion has been added to the DoD list of recognized religions. symbols were placed on the tombstones of the deceased soldiers.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

well, just wasn't sure if somer saw that the wiccan religion has been added to the DoD list of recognized religions. symbols were placed on the tombstones of the deceased soldiers.

Danzig: Somer knows this, but it makes for a better story if we're still hunting Wiccans. Somer: if this is that important to you,please get the leaders on board so they can benefit from the program!