Victor Molina Is in Trouble

He had to jump to kick the horse right?

[blackthroatedwind]

I hate it when people pick on these brave heroes who risk their lives on a daily basis.

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I hate it when people pick on these brave heroes who risk their lives on a daily basis.

Are "these brave heroes" the jocks or the horses?

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by whodey17

Are "these brave heroes" the jocks or the horses?

You certainly are a special kind of jackass. I'd like to kick you in your stomach. Or lower. See how you like it. Then you can answer your own question.

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

You certainly are a special kind of jackass. I'd like to kick you in your stomach. Or lower. See how you like it. Then you can answer your own question.

What on earth are you talking about?

[MisterB]

They should tie his leg in the stirup, and play Red Pollard in the shed row with his azz.

[paisjpq]

I guess I'm the only person here willing to admit I have kicked a horse in the gut for being a ass.hole.

[Linny]

It was uncalled for. The horse was clearly a bad actor at the gate but he stood for the unsaddling and it was after that that the jock booted him.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

I guess I'm the only person here willing to admit I have kicked a horse in the gut for being a ass.hole.

Isn't the key though to do so while the horse is in the act of doing said behavior?

I think Victor should get the death penalty.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Isn't the key though to do so while the horse is in the act of doing said behavior?

of course...I was just stiring the pot, point is though that we all lose it on occasion. I'm not excusing what he did....but I've made that same stupid immature choice before when a horse has gotten the best of me.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

I guess I'm the only person here willing to admit I have kicked a horse in the gut for being a ass.hole.

Why should the human race be the only ones subject to your magnanimous nature?

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Why should the human race be the only ones subject to your magnanimous nature?

OOOOOOOOOO

[Payson Dave]

Sic him Theb....sic him

[blackthroatedwind]

I am not offering a defense of Victor Molina, or those kind of actions, but I think that there is a basic hypocracy in these kinds of threads. Considering all the lousy things that go on in horse racing, and the general blind eye most of us turn to them, I'm not sure this specific situation should get everybody up in arms. I have a friend who was an exercise rider and backstretch worker, one day I asked her what she was doing that afternoon and she said " pulling manes. " When I suggested that sounded boarderline cruel she said " we do a lot of mean things to horses. "

It's a brutal game that we love....let's not pretend we're animal rights activists here.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I am not offering a defense of Victor Molina, or those kind of actions, but I think that there is a basic hypocracy in these kinds of threads. Considering all the lousy things that go on in horse racing, and the general blind eye most of us turn to them, I'm not sure this specific situation should get everybody up in arms. I have a friend who was an exercise rider and backstretch worker, one day I asked her what she was doing that afternoon and she said " pulling manes. " When I suggested that sounded boarderline cruel she said " we do a lot of mean things to horses. "

It's a brutal game that we love....let's not pretend we're animal rights activists here.

like most of the men in my life...my horse is a masochist who loves to have his mane pulled...

but your point is right on.

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I am not offering a defense of Victor Molina, or those kind of actions, but I think that there is a basic hypocracy in these kinds of threads. Considering all the lousy things that go on in horse racing, and the general blind eye most of us turn to them, I'm not sure this specific situation should get everybody up in arms. I have a friend who was an exercise rider and backstretch worker, one day I asked her what she was doing that afternoon and she said " pulling manes. " When I suggested that sounded boarderline cruel she said " we do a lot of mean things to horses. "

It's a brutal game that we love....let's not pretend we're animal rights activists here.

You know, this is pretty well said. Good job BTW.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I am not offering a defense of Victor Molina, or those kind of actions, but I think that there is a basic hypocracy in these kinds of threads. Considering all the lousy things that go on in horse racing, and the general blind eye most of us turn to them, I'm not sure this specific situation should get everybody up in arms. I have a friend who was an exercise rider and backstretch worker, one day I asked her what she was doing that afternoon and she said " pulling manes. " When I suggested that sounded boarderline cruel she said " we do a lot of mean things to horses. "

It's a brutal game that we love....let's not pretend we're animal rights activists here.

Although this is the sort of offense that activists run with too. When that jockey headbutted that horse in Europe, there were videos made saying horse racing is nothing but a bunch of horse hating headbutters. I get your point though and from pulling lots of manes myself I can say it sucked for me too. (just kidding)

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I have a friend who was an exercise rider and backstretch worker, one day I asked her what she was doing that afternoon and she said " pulling manes. " When I suggested that sounded boarderline cruel she said " we do a lot of mean things to horses. "

It's a brutal game that we love....let's not pretend we're animal rights activists here.

Pulling manes is much more brutal on the person doing it than the horse.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I am not offering a defense of Victor Molina, or those kind of actions, but I think that there is a basic hypocracy in these kinds of threads. Considering all the lousy things that go on in horse racing, and the general blind eye most of us turn to them, I'm not sure this specific situation should get everybody up in arms. I have a friend who was an exercise rider and backstretch worker, one day I asked her what she was doing that afternoon and she said " pulling manes. " When I suggested that sounded boarderline cruel she said " we do a lot of mean things to horses. "

It's a brutal game that we love....let's not pretend we're animal rights activists here.

Well said blackthroat.
As you might have guessed, most times it's not about being "mean" or "cruel",
but rather to remain in control of a very big critter that needs to learn that you're not willing to allow it to hurt you.
This doesn't happen often with me.
A quick story, and I was not the kicker.
A nice mare named Miss Lewis showed up at the farm. She's not mine. I was just trying to help give her a bath.
She's on a lay-up since running at Aq this past winter. I think she won in Feb, but I really didn't follow her.
She's a nice looking mare but must have stepped on something that hurt her left front. She tried to kick the blacksmith the day before, so we held her other leg when he drained the absess. She was quite grouchy.
So, the next day when we were giving her a bath and I held the lead, she goes off again. Those hooves can reach quite far.
It was like, three of us trying to hold an angry crocodile.
Then came the kick that told Miss "Crazy" that her antics weren't appreciated.
She settled down.
We ended the "game" when I put her back in her stall and when I was taking the chain off her bridle, she tried to take off my fingers. I got the snap undone and didn't react further.
I'll be watching her the next time though.