Tin Man/Better Talk Now

[dearheart54]

Originally Posted by ninetoone

I consider it a steal when you set fractions of 50 & 1:15 w/not much pressure & then hold off the closers...but I'm happy for him. He's a cool horse. I just don't think that scenario will play out again anytime soon.

Oh, I don't know about that. He seemed to do pretty well in the Shoemaker on Memorial Day at Hollywood. I think he won that race in good fashion

[ninetoone]

The Shoemaker was a great race for him (still was a slow pace), but you're talking apples and oranges. He wasn't on the lead the whole way...what do you consider a "steal"?

[dearheart54]

Originally Posted by ninetoone

The Shoemaker was a great race for him (still was a slow pace), but you're talking apples and oranges. He wasn't on the lead the whole way...what do you consider a "steal"?

One word - Giacomo. It was fortunate I bet on him anyway, as well as Closing Argument.

As for last year's Million, I was waiting for all those other horses to pass him, and none of them did. So who does one fault for The Tin Man 'stealing' the race? Causes me to ponder.

[ninetoone]

Giacomo "stole" the race in the Derby? Somebody out there help me out here w/some horse racing terminology 101.

[dearheart54]

Originally Posted by ninetoone

Giacomo "stole" the race in the Derby? Somebody out there help me out here w/some horse racing terminology 101.

You know, it's just my opinion; you have yours, I have mine. I thought this was going to be an interesting and friendly conversation, but the last comment told me otherwise. Have a nice day and good luck in all your racing endeavors.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by dearheart54

You know, it's just my opinion; you have yours, I have mine. I thought this was going to be an interesting and friendly conversation, but the last comment told me otherwise. Have a nice day and good luck in all your racing endeavors.

I think he was trying to point out that when a horse 'steals' a race it's done while on the front end.

[dearheart54]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I think he was trying to point out that when a horse 'steals' a race it's done while on the front end.

Thank Caj. I do understand what was said, I just didn't quite like the tone of that post. It reminded me of the tone I got from Dabosshoss the first time I replied to a post. I guess my skin isn't as thick as my skull apparently is. I should perhaps go back to viewing posts for a while.

And thanks for the tip a while back about Cotton Blossom. I won some nice money on her Saturday.

[Honu]

I love it !!!!!! The Tin Man has everyone guessing , in his defense about the Million last year , it was all jockey error behind him, they all thought the old fart would stop but they werent smart enough to even realize that their horses were about to break into a jog they were going sooooo slow. Now with him winning from a little off the pace in his first race back its got people wondering what hell do next time, well Ill tell you what he will do next time, whatever the rider wants, if the pace is hot hell let em go if its slow he will cruise to the lead , to Tinny it doesnt matter he just enjoys running .

[estreetposse]

Originally Posted by Honu

I love it !!!!!! The Tin Man has everyone guessing , in his defense about the Million last year , it was all jockey error behind him, they all thought the old fart would stop but they werent smart enough to even realize that their horses were about to break into a jog they were going sooooo slow. Now with him winning from a little off the pace in his first race back its got people wondering what hell do next time, well Ill tell you what he will do next time, whatever the rider wants, if the pace is hot hell let em go if its slow he will cruise to the lead , to Tinny it doesnt matter he just enjoys running .

How about bringin' the ol' guy up to the Spa...would love to see him in person(or is it in horse) it's a great thing for him to keep getting the job done!!!

[Honu]

Originally Posted by estreetposse

How about bringin' the ol' guy up to the Spa...would love to see him in person(or is it in horse) it's a great thing for him to keep getting the job done!!!

I think his races are pretty planned out at this point , the American handicap the end of this month and then the Arlington million again.

[ninetoone]

Originally Posted by Honu

I love it !!!!!! The Tin Man has everyone guessing , in his defense about the Million last year , it was all jockey error behind him, they all thought the old fart would stop but they werent smart enough to even realize that their horses were about to break into a jog they were going sooooo slow. Now with him winning from a little off the pace in his first race back its got people wondering what hell do next time, well Ill tell you what he will do next time, whatever the rider wants, if the pace is hot hell let em go if its slow he will cruise to the lead , to Tinny it doesnt matter he just enjoys running .

Is it me or are the jockey's "clocks" not what they used to be 10-20-30 years ago?

[Honu]

Originally Posted by ninetoone

Is it me or are the jockey's "clocks" not what they used to be 10-20-30 years ago?

You may be onto something but I really believe that they all thought that he couldnt win so they would just let the old guy have his fun and then they would all swarm him at the end.