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Old 06-11-2007, 06:19 PM
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I'm no genius, but am a cable/racing junkie who likes to gamble. If they really want to boost interest in the 'Sport of Kings' they should show the horse racing channels for free. Whenever they show an hour or so of free horse racing (it happens sometimes on my system), i always think, "Damn, I want to get in on that sort of action, I would have had that winner". I don't subscribe 'cause I would be too consumed to lead a normal life, but other channel surfers my get intrigued and begin to follow the sport. I'm I being naive, or am I on to something?
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Old 06-11-2007, 06:34 PM
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Just a thought here.... when racing was really big, horses were more a part of a lot of peoples lives...kinda like Nascar is big now because cars are more a part of everyday life now....When I was a kid I had cousins that lived on farms and they had horses....my kids don't have cousins that live on farms and other than me they don't know anyone who is even interested in horses.

All that being said I've got no idea how to really bring racing back to prominence... maybe a cartoon character(sp?) super hero that is a race horse...maybe a few more TV series that have racing as a backdrop...maybe a Charlottes Web of horse racing....maybe a series of college course electives Handicapping 101...maybe playboy doing a series of issues on "Girls of the Backstretch"
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Old 06-11-2007, 06:39 PM
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stop pkucking over the gamblers....
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Old 06-11-2007, 06:55 PM
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I think I'm kinda' addicted to "live' Tv. I can watch a live 1 to 2 minute event, that no one can predict how will end, except for the lucky bettors, and be excited, especially if I'm one of those lucky bettors. It doesn't get any better than that. Maybe that can't compete with casino gambing, or secks, but we gotta get more people involved. Hopefully secks timing might compare to a steeplecase race?
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Old 06-11-2007, 07:02 PM
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I'd gladly pay an extra $9.99 a month if Ken Rudolph would talk like Buckwheat.
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Old 06-11-2007, 07:08 PM
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A good video game might help.

You know how Tiger Woods has his own golf game every year and they call it Tiger Woods 06 or Tiger Woods 07? Well how about a....Funny Cide 07!! C'mon that would be the best idea ever! Funny Cide promoting horse racing to teenagers and young adults!

There was a video game with Ghostzapper on the cover but c'mon....the general public doesn't care about Ghostzapper!
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A good video game might help.

You know how Tiger Woods has his own golf game every year and they call it Tiger Woods 06 or Tiger Woods 07? Well how about a....Funny Cide 07!! C'mon that would be the best idea ever! Funny Cide promoting horse racing to teenagers and young adults!

There was a video game with Ghostzapper on the cover but c'mon....the general public doesn't care about Ghostzapper!
the winner gets to spot funny cide in a race he can win...lolololol

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Old 06-11-2007, 07:18 PM
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A good video game might help.

You know how Tiger Woods has his own golf game every year and they call it Tiger Woods 06 or Tiger Woods 07? Well how about a....Funny Cide 07!! C'mon that would be the best idea ever! Funny Cide promoting horse racing to teenagers and young adults!

There was a video game with Ghostzapper on the cover but c'mon....the general public doesn't care about Ghostzapper!

Game was the pits. I was sooo excited when I first heard about it. I was disappointed to say the least. It was sooo bad, they didnt even bother making it better the next yr. ..One and done...Not even Tom Durkin's voice could help, lol...
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Old 06-11-2007, 07:09 PM
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I may have to pay the price, just to get that joke! Or wait for the all "Little Rascals" channel.
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Old 06-11-2007, 06:43 PM
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Just a thought here.... when racing was really big, horses were more a part of a lot of peoples lives...kinda like Nascar is big now because cars are more a part of everyday life now....When I was a kid I had cousins that lived on farms and they had horses....my kids don't have cousins that live on farms and other than me they don't know anyone who is even interested in horses.

All that being said I've got no idea how to really bring racing back to prominence..
It was pretty big in the 60's and 70's and I dont think the milkman was delivering by horse then.

Racing does not need to be brought back to prominence, just run it right, treat your customers better, understand where you stand in the marketplace and fight for lower taxation and we would be just fine.
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Old 06-11-2007, 06:47 PM
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It was pretty big in the 60's and 70's and I dont think the milkman was delivering by horse then.

Racing does not need to be brought back to prominence, just run it right, treat your customers better, understand where you stand in the marketplace and fight for lower taxation and we would be just fine.
Not sure that you get my point... and I'm guessing you are not real interested in even trying to.

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Old 06-12-2007, 12:14 PM
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Not sure that you get my point... and I'm guessing you are not real interested in even trying to.
I get your point. I have heard it many times and think it is crazy. Horses have not been an important part of American culture for at least 75 years. Just have a hard time understanding why people not being associated with horses would keep them from betting on the races
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Racing does not need to be brought back to prominence, just run it right, treat your customers better, understand where you stand in the marketplace and fight for lower taxation and we would be just fine.
Novel concepts.
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Old 06-11-2007, 06:52 PM
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It was pretty big in the 60's and 70's and I dont think the milkman was delivering by horse then.

Racing does not need to be brought back to prominence, just run it right, treat your customers better, understand where you stand in the marketplace and fight for lower taxation and we would be just fine.
All that is well and good but it would not hurt to be bringing a few more new "customers" into the game....and racing may have been bigger in the 30's and 40's when the milkman did deliver the milk by horsey
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:20 PM
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All that is well and good but it would not hurt to be bringing a few more new "customers" into the game....and racing may have been bigger in the 30's and 40's when the milkman did deliver the milk by horsey
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Outside of the few big events of the year and special meets like Saratoga and Del Mar, no one is going to see the horses. They are going to bet on them. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but if you are a fan and don't bet, you are of little value to the industry. We dont have tickets sales or merchandising or TV contracts as a source of revenue. We only have betting handle as our sole revenue source.
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Old 06-12-2007, 02:31 PM
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Outside of the few big events of the year and special meets like Saratoga and Del Mar, no one is going to see the horses. They are going to bet on them. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but if you are a fan and don't bet, you are of little value to the industry. We dont have tickets sales or merchandising or TV contracts as a source of revenue. We only have betting handle as our sole revenue source.
I'm sure that your perspective is more relavent and informed than mine...and I'm serious when I say that...I just think that one way to get more people involved in the wagering aspect of the game is to start by getting more people interested in the game in general...my thoughts are that turning $2 bettors into $20 bettors is something to work on after you have gotten them interested in the first place....granted baseball, nascar, football, ect ect are not dependent upon wagering...in those sports the fans are spectators... in horseracing the fans are both spectators and participants...the more fans there are the more participants (ie people wagering) there will be....I'm trying to say that I think that people will become more involved in the wagering after they have been exposed to the game as a spectator...I'll shut up now and leave the thinking to the more informed.

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Old 06-12-2007, 02:42 PM
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Make the Breeder's Cup a prime time event.
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Old 06-12-2007, 02:53 PM
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I'm sure that your perspective is more relavent and informed than mine...and I'm serious when I say that...I just think that one way to get more people involved in the wagering aspect of the game is to start by getting more people interested in the game in general...my thoughts are that turning $2 bettors into $20 bettors is something to work on after you have gotten them interested in the first place....granted baseball, nascar, football, ect ect are not dependent upon wagering...in those sports the fans are spectators... in horseracing the fans are both spectators and participants...the more fans there are the more participants (ie people wagering) there will be....I'll shut up now and leave the thinking to the more informed.
The main problem is that people are lazy. It takes time to dope out all those pick 3's 4's 6's and so on. There is so much information to compute. As a beginner that information seems like it is in another language. Even simple bets could seem difficult. As opposed to knowing that the starting QB for the jets is out and they should lose by 30. The majority of the people on this site enjoy handicapping the races. If there is a way to simplify all the information for the real beginners, so they really understand why they should bet the closer because of all the speed in the race. Then maybe they could catch the fever and see how interesting and exciting the sport is. If they understand then maybe they will bet more based off their own opinions. Until then they will be betting two dollars on there favorite numbers, names and whoever the newspaper picks.
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