Rags!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Amen on that!

I've never screamed so loud in my life... what a race by a great filly.

Ditto on the screaming. I scared my family.

[SuffolkGirl]

I am hoarse - what a race, gutsy girl - get outta her way - I am elated

[AngelSita]

Good for her!! And it's nice to see Pletcher finally get a TC race.

[Mortimer]

Friggin sickening.




Now I have to listen to that retch Just In.

It corroborates ....somebody up there just don't like me.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy

Friggin sickening.




Now I have to listen to that retch Just In.

It corroborates ....somebody up there just don't like me.

D for spelling

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

D for spelling

Well now what did I misspell?

[Mortimer]

I don't see any misspellings.





Let's hear it Uncly Trust.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy

Well now what did I misspell?

retch is puke
i think you mean wretch.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

retch is puke
i think you mean wretch.

Yes, A+ for you.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

retch is puke
i think you mean wretch.

You have a way with words.


I said it the way I meant it which is the way I spelled it....and it's not what you say it means.

[Stall Mucker]

What a Belmont. I liked Rags from the time of entry and she did not disappoint.
Yes, I got the sick feeling at the start and was screamin at the finish. The dog is now avoiding me.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Stall Mucker

What a Belmont. I liked Rags from the time of entry and she did not disappoint.
Yes, I got the sick feeling at the start and was screamin at the finish. The dog is now avoiding me.

you too huh? what is it with dogs, you start yelling, they automatically assume it's at them...such a guilt complex!

[Travis Stone]

For those comparing Beyers to determine where she belong on the list of all-time greats please remember that Beyer speed figures measure speed and speed only. They do not measure heart, and they do not measure class, for which Rags to Riches has both.

It's amazing -- we see an awesome horse race, with two classy, fast and amazing individuals battle head-and-head down the stretch, and already the naysayers and dissenters are out in force about her place in history.

To me, history is winning a classic horse race. Check. (Belmont Stakes..and Oaks)

To me, history is overcoming obstacles. Check (wide-trip).

And finally, history is doing something unusual, extraordinary, out-of-the-norm..double check (A filly beats the boys, and answers a classy foes every attempt at the lead).

Is she the greatest of all time? Can't say yes or no to that, but I can say she was the greatest today.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

For those comparing Beyers to determine where she belong on the list of all-time greats please remember that Beyer speed figures measure speed and speed only. They do not measure heart, and they do not measure class, for which Rags to Riches has both.

It's amazing -- we see an awesome horse race, with two classy, fast and amazing individuals battle head-and-head down the stretch, and already the naysayers and dissenters are out in force about her place in history.

To me, history is winning a classic horse race. Check. (Belmont Stakes..and Oaks)

To me, history is overcoming obstacles. Check (wide-trip).

And finally, history is doing something unusual, extraordinary, out-of-the-norm..double check (A filly beats the boys, and answers a classy foes every attempt at the lead).

Is she the greatest of all time? Can't say yes or no to that, but I can say she was the greatest today.

i think she showed tremendous courage, every time curlin came at her, she turned him back.
it'd be nice if those kind of entries happened more often. i think people are surprised when fillies do so well, because they are under the false assumption that fillies can't compete on that level, when those of us who follow this sport know it happens quite often--albeit overseas.

curlin showed that kind of grit in the preakness, and tried his heart out today. but the filly was a bit better.

it was a great race, very exciting. it's one to remember for sure.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

It's amazing -- we see an awesome horse race, with two classy, fast and amazing individuals battle head-and-head down the stretch, and already the naysayers and dissenters are out in force about her place in history.

why are you a naysayer to objectively analyzed a race and a horses ability? I think if somone just jumps on the bandwagon and say a horse is great without looking at all the context that is the real disservice.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Is she the greatest of all time? Can't say yes or no to that, but I can say she was the greatest today.

Look, I said she'd win the Kentucky Oaks after I saw her break her maiden earlier in the year--and was very under the radar.

I argued with a few people here, mainly MisterB, that she absolutley belonged in the race...

She basically ran her race today.....and her race was good enough to beat Curlin and Hard Spun at 12 furlongs.

Does that make her an all-time great filly? You obviously BADLY misunderstood the point I made about her figures---as the point flattered her.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Look, I said she'd win the Kentucky Oaks after I saw her break her maiden earlier in the year--and was very under the radar.

I argued with a few people here, mainly MisterB, that she absolutley belonged in the race...

She basically ran her race today.....and her race was good enough to beat Curlin and Hard Spun at 12 furlongs.

Does that make her an all-time great filly? You obviously BADLY misunderstood the point I made about her figures---as the point flattered her.

I'm certainly not willing to compare her to Ruffian or the greatest ever, Kincsem but she certainly has shown almost unlimited potential...we'll see how she does against older and then comparisons may or may not be appropriate!

[pick4]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

For those comparing Beyers to determine where she belong on the list of all-time greats please remember that Beyer speed figures measure speed and speed only. They do not measure heart, and they do not measure class, for which Rags to Riches has both.

It's amazing -- we see an awesome horse race, with two classy, fast and amazing individuals battle head-and-head down the stretch, and already the naysayers and dissenters are out in force about her place in history.

To me, history is winning a classic horse race. Check. (Belmont Stakes..and Oaks)

To me, history is overcoming obstacles. Check (wide-trip).

And finally, history is doing something unusual, extraordinary, out-of-the-norm..double check (A filly beats the boys, and answers a classy foes every attempt at the lead).

Is she the greatest of all time? Can't say yes or no to that, but I can say she was the greatest today.

My wallet would have been heavier if Curlin had prevailed. I initially liked Rags to Riches from a handicapping perspective but was talked off of her. I did not have a strong opinion in the Belmont Stakes and was wishy washy. But I also liked Rags to Riches from a fans perspective. In hindsight I should have added her to my tickets, but I've learned that rooting for a horse to win because of sentimental reason and betting a horse on handicapping logic does not mix. My mistake was ignoring my initial thoughts that Rags to Riches matched up well with these horses well with the fact that she is a she a non thought.

I was in the stands today and once they got to the 1/8 pole, I realized I was about to have a birdseye view of an historical event. 102 years since a filly won this great race and I'm about to see it happen live in person. At that point the gambling aspect went out the window for me. A friend who was next to me was rooting on Tiago to close the gap. I remember grabbing him and saying we're watching history. When Rags to Riches past the finish line I had a strange feeling of delight. I looked at my arms and saw my arms covered in goosebumps. I can't ever remember a horse race ever having tha effect on me. Even races where I won significant amounts of money. The stands which were sparsely crowded for most of the day were packing and were very loud.

As far as saying she is the greatest filly of all time, I think it's like the same argument that goes on with baseball in particular but other sports as well. Comparing athetes who did not compete together in the same era is hypothetical. There is no true correct answer and it's all opinion. She's clearly head and shoulders above her generation.

Rags to Riches victory will bring positive coverage to horse racing. Emotionally people will probably to horse racing in a favorable light.
Hopefully her connections let her run for the next year at the very least.

She's an incredible athlete. I don't care if it was 6, 8, 9, 10, 20 furlongs...she beat Curlin fair and square and will forever be remembered as a champion.

I expect the Classic could be in her future. I hope so.

[Travis Stone]

At what point in the stretch did the gambling dollars leave your mind and the fan in you kick-in? That was awesome, what a horse race.