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Old 06-05-2007, 11:24 AM
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There was really only one....but it was something special.
"the mother of all goose's" gotta love that name...
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:30 AM
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"the mother of all goose's" gotta love that name...
I think Durkin may have said that initially.
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:32 AM
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Greg Fox gave J.V. the OK to ride Rags to Riches instead of Slew's Tizzy.
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:34 AM
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Greg Fox gave J.V. the OK to ride Rags to Riches instead of Slew's Tizzy.

Sounds like they had an agreement beforehand. Frankly, the way Johnny has been riding it won't matter anyway.
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Old 06-05-2007, 02:12 PM
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Sounds like they had an agreement beforehand. Frankly, the way Johnny has been riding it won't matter anyway.


Really?? Through June 4th

Mounts: 453 W- 103 P-71 S-58

Earnings- 4th place $6,247,817

I guess your right....that's some bad riding.
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Old 06-05-2007, 02:16 PM
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Really?? Through June 4th

Mounts: 453 W- 103 P-71 S-58

Earnings- 4th place $6,247,817

I guess your right....that's some bad riding.
Think of it this way, Tiger Woods has sucked lately too.
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Old 06-05-2007, 02:44 PM
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Think of it this way, Tiger Woods has sucked lately too.

yeah...he has only won 9 of his last 16 starts. I wish I sucked that bad.
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Old 06-05-2007, 02:19 PM
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Really?? Through June 4th

Mounts: 453 W- 103 P-71 S-58

Earnings- 4th place $6,247,817

I guess your right....that's some bad riding.

Perhaps you should watch racing on a day to day basis before posting a bunch of numbers. Everybody paying attention knows the deal.
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Old 06-05-2007, 02:32 PM
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Perhaps you should watch racing on a day to day basis before posting a bunch of numbers. Everybody paying attention knows the deal.
me too, I don't care what the numbers say, he is not quite the same now for whatever reason.
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Old 06-05-2007, 02:35 PM
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Perhaps you should watch racing on a day to day basis before posting a bunch of numbers. Everybody paying attention knows the deal.
Well, #1 Sir.....I have a job, but I do watch replays from Belmont on most nights. #2. I don't have a job in the summer so I'm at Saratoga where I've seen him do nothing but win...and not just on Pletcher's horses.

It's funny how when many people on here want people to back up their points with facts and then they do......well then suddenly the facts Lie?
Really? Wow? He did all of that in 6 months, but he sucks lately?
I suppose you say the same about any jockey whose had a rough couple of weeks?
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Old 06-05-2007, 04:38 PM
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Sounds like they had an agreement beforehand. Frankly, the way Johnny has been riding it won't matter anyway.


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It's honestly amazing how poorly Johnny has ridden lately. It's like he doesn't care anymore. He was never as great a rider as some made him out to be, but he was pretty damn good, and lately he looks like the second coming of Mike Smith. It seems like if he isn't riding a cadillac for Pletcher he just " goes where they aint. "

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Really?? Through June 4th

Mounts: 453 W- 103 P-71 S-58

Earnings- 4th place $6,247,817

I guess your right....that's some bad riding.

apples and oranges
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Old 06-05-2007, 04:52 PM
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Me thinks it has been too long since you have had any Brazilian Beef.
Yuck...
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Old 06-05-2007, 04:51 PM
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What is everyone arguing for? She has no chance. The stop has been executed.
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Old 06-05-2007, 04:57 PM
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Well, he has a point or two that make sense. What is Brazilian Beef?

There is a point to the apples side of the discussion and there is a point to the oranges side of the discussion...they are just different points...but what do I know... pox fan has decided I'm a crackhead and by his own reference he's a degenerate gambler..

Best we not get into the Brazilian Beef discussion.

Where the hell is Buffy when ya need her...shouldn't someone be reminded to "be nice"

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Old 06-05-2007, 11:37 AM
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Greg Fox gave J.V. the OK to ride Rags to Riches instead of Slew's Tizzy.
Greg Fox came to his senses.

Must've been watching some Belmont replays.
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:39 AM
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Greg Fox came to his senses.

Must've been watching some Belmont replays.

It's honestly amazing how poorly Johnny has ridden lately. It's like he doesn't care anymore. He was never as great a rider as some made him out to be, but he was pretty damn good, and lately he looks like the second coming of Mike Smith. It seems like if he isn't riding a cadillac for Pletcher he just " goes where they aint. "
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:46 AM
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It's honestly amazing how poorly Johnny has ridden lately. It's like he doesn't care anymore. He was never as great a rider as some made him out to be, but he was pretty damn good, and lately he looks like the second coming of Mike Smith. It seems like if he isn't riding a cadillac for Pletcher he just " goes where they aint. "
That's exactly what it looks like. He's sleepwalking through the races.

I need one of those disclaimers here: The following does not represent the views and beliefs of DT Management and/or it's Memebers.

A complete guess on my part, but I would say he's got something wrong in his personal life or he has something physically dogging him. Either way, if he needs to step away to get his life in order, I suggest he do it soon.
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Old 06-05-2007, 12:37 PM
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That's exactly what it looks like. He's sleepwalking through the races.

I need one of those disclaimers here: The following does not represent the views and beliefs of DT Management and/or it's Memebers.

A complete guess on my part, but I would say he's got something wrong in his personal life or he has something physically dogging him. Either way, if he needs to step away to get his life in order, I suggest he do it soon.
I think JV was always over-rated, Prado was always better in my mind, and now that Garrett Gomez is on the scene the competition for the good horses is even harder, he has always had Pletchers spoon-fed mounts to bolster his stats, but day to day Prado and Gomez are better in my opinion of course.
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:37 AM
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Let's see now. Pletcher sporting an ofer in triple crown races. Is there just a hint of desperation in this move?
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:41 AM
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Let's see now. Pletcher sporting an ofer in triple crown races. Is there just a hint of desperation in this move?
I don't think so at all. He's running a horse who is one of the choices. Doesn't seem desperate to me. Running Circular Quay could have been construed as desperate perhaps.

To me it improves two races from a wagering standpoint.....it makes this Belmont more interesting and it removes a 2:5 shot from the Mother Goose.
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