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Old 05-30-2007, 10:29 PM
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Estreet, what makes you think the distance of the Stephan Foster will be better for Street Sense than the Belmont?

Maybe it won't be, buddy ol' pal, just thought a little drop in distance at a track he does well at might help out rather than running 1 1/2 at a track he' s never seen & a distance that he'll most likely never...ever...see in his probable shortened career.
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Old 05-30-2007, 10:50 PM
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Plus, he'd get a ton of weight from the older horses in the Foster. I think because of the weight factor, the extra week, the fact that it's at Churchill, and the fact that there isn't much in the older horse division to scare u outside of Invasor........the Foster would be the perfect spot. I think that if Curlin were to win the Belmont and Street Sense beat older in a grade one, it would put Street Sense in the lead at this point for top 3yo honors. The purse is not bad either and it's at a distance that we know he can handle on a track that we know he likes as opposed to two unknowns in the Belmont.
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Old 05-31-2007, 09:09 AM
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I see it's going to be like that. Okay. I tried.

Sorry to be a piss pot, thought you were gonna start things up again even after I agreed with you(especially about SS!!) I think running him back at CD and then on to Monmouth would be a good route for his connections to take.

I also agree with what KG says.
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Old 05-31-2007, 09:12 AM
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I'm sorry, I must be in the minority here, but I'm still chuckling at the thought of Street Sense heading to the Stephen Foster to take on older horses.
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Old 05-31-2007, 09:34 AM
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I'm sorry, I must be in the minority here, but I'm still chuckling at the thought of Street Sense heading to the Stephen Foster to take on older horses.
Beside the fact that it would be an unusual move for a three year old, what is so funny about it? Would Street Sense be horribly outclassed by Master Command or Magna Graduate? I'm pretty sure he would have a nice weight break. I guess I don't get what is so funny about it. Even though I know he will not run in the race I'm reasonably confident that under the circumstances he wouldn't have much trouble winning it.
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Old 05-31-2007, 09:46 AM
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I guess I am the only one who thinks that there's a huge difference between a 3YO in June of his 3YO season and an older horse regardless of weight.
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Old 05-31-2007, 09:47 AM
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I guess I am the only one who thinks that there's a huge difference between a 3YO in June of his 3YO season and an older horse regardless of weight.
I think it depends on which older horse we're talking about...
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Do you guys really think Street Sense is that good that he'll whoop up on whatever handicap horses show up for the Stephen Foster on June 16th? Unless it's some serious chumps, I wouldn't bet a nickel on him to be in the money. Master Command and Magna Graduate are two pretty good horses and at this point in their respective careers, would both have to be favored over Street Sense on a fair track.
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I guess I am the only one who thinks that there's a huge difference between a 3YO in June of his 3YO season and an older horse regardless of weight.
in general yes, but aren't we comparing an exceptional 3yo against some rather ho-hum older horses? I mean if you're talking about stand-out classy older horse like Invasor, sure it would be folly to engage him at this point. But these others, to me they're just the best of what's currently around but not any monsters.
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Sorry to be a piss pot, thought you were gonna start things up again even after I agreed with you(especially about SS!!) I think running him back at CD and then on to Monmouth would be a good route for his connections to take.

I also agree with what KG says.
Nice "STONE" ...great craftmanship, where can I get one like that?
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Old 06-01-2007, 09:27 AM
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Nice "STONE" ...great craftmanship, where can I get one like that?
I make house calls!! Haven't done much in the Sand Flats but many of my fine crafted memorials can be viewed all over the Mohawk Valley and Capital District.(shameless plug)

As far as SS...many people gave his connections the utmost respect prior to and following the derby...myself wasn't one of them. I really don't understand all the 2nd guessing and seemingly disrespectful tone they have been getting since the decision not to run. It is their horse...they are the responsible ones for the horses future & if they don't see a positive reason for running him then that's fine...don't run him & look towards the future. Most will still be fans of the horse and the sport if he doesn't run in the Belmont...the rest can keep playing owner/trainer on their laptops at home.
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