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Old 07-05-2006, 10:30 PM
Danzig Danzig is offline
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over? strong contender--hasn't beaten top shelf comp yet, only has excuses. yeah, he won the dwyer. WOOOOOW

under? barbaro. til after his derby win.
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Old 07-05-2006, 10:58 PM
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over rated;
Lawyer Ron, sorry I just never thought he was a top flight derby contender.

under rated;
Lady of Venice, filly looks like a turf monster to me.
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:12 PM
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over rated;
Lawyer Ron, sorry I just never thought he was a top flight derby contender.

under rated;
Lady of Venice, filly looks like a turf monster to me.
Thats a pretty good duo of picks there IMO...nice...

Here I go (and I'll pick horses that WILL fall apart but haven't yet and horses that WILL be underappreciated):

Overrated: Lava Man (when he leaves the precious West Coast he is doomed)

Underrated: Napa Cat figured I'd throw in a 2yo who nobody is talking about right now but one that has CRAZY ability...won't be underrated if he wins the Bashford Manor though...

Nevermind on Napa Cat........he isn't even nominated to the Bashford Manor which means that Steve is either waiting for Saratoga or he got hurt....I'll find out...he has Chase City for the Bashford Manor who will be tough but Minefield will be the favorite and I think Run Alex Run will be a tough little horse to catch on the lead at a good price...Also, BErnie Flint has a maiden named Unbridled Express that will be a very live sleeper from off the pace if he chooses to run this one in the Bahford Manor instead of going into a maiden race...he is nominated at least...

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Old 07-05-2006, 11:21 PM
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Hate to say it, but when I read the title the first name that came to mind for overrated was Lawyer Ron, and it pisses me off to say that because I have been touting him since January. As for underrated, I think Bernardini is better than the credit he receives (most likely due to the Barbaro injury).
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:24 PM
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Hate to say it, but when I read the title the first name that came to mind for overrated was Lawyer Ron, and it pisses me off to say that because I have been touting him since January. As for underrated, I think Bernardini is better than the credit he receives (most likely due to the Barbaro injury).
Yep, Bernardini is really underrated right now, but I think he'll quickly prove to get plenty of respect in the months to come....
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:35 PM
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Underated: Sun King, Brass Hat (only as good as your last loss)

Overrated: Borrego
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:51 PM
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Overrated--Flower Alley. Yeah, he won the Salvatore Mile receiving a Funny Cide-like Beyer. They talk like he is in the top 2 male handicap horses in the east. I need to see a lot more.

Cause to Believe. He stinks.

Brass Hat. Chance to rise in the Foster. He stunk.

Bob and John. He stinks.

Underrated--Invasor. His two American races both top notch.

Lava Man. I don't care about only in Cal. Grade 1's on both dirt and turf. don't see that often. That speaks for itself.

Barbaro. Turf and dirt. See Lava Man.

Showing Up. Turf and dirt. See two above.

Steppenwolfer. He stinks and is slow, but he runs the exact same race exactly, every time out. There is something to be said for that. A good skill.

Gorella. Excellent horse who competes with the top boys.

Honey Ryder. Always runs well.

Discreet Cat. Hasn't run yet, but destroyed Invasor in Dubai. Counts for something.

Funny Cide. See Steppenwolfer comments. Just from the opposite end of the pack. And many thought he was done.
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:40 PM
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I almost chose Bernardini for under-rated because I think his stock will continue to go up. Its just that he is already held in pretty high regard off the Preakness win so his upside is not quite as great. OTOH, who knows how good he becomes.

Lava Man is not a bad prediction for over-rated since he is so highly regarded now and may find winning outside of CA very hard. He is one that my head tells me will crash and burn when he travels, but if he should pull it off I'd be thrilled as a fan.
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:50 PM
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Overrated: Brother Derek...I don't care how bad his trips were or whatever he had the most ideal trips out in So Cal in all 3 of his preps. Just have never liked him.

Underrated: Better Talk Now...Don't know if he is really underrated but he is like 100 years old now and still is extremely competetive. I really hope the UN is run because I love watching the old guy run.
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