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Old 05-20-2007, 10:07 PM
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To think that Curlin would have won the Derby with a different jock is preposterous jargon at best.
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:13 PM
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Source considering, he must have been Tony SOprano's payote connect in Vegas to make such outlandish statements. The connections played it perfectly. They know the gem that they have, good for them.

Borel's future with this horse was never in doubt. WIth a few more questionable decisions, do they (nafzger and owners) go elsewhere? My thought would be NO, but who knows in this game. Thoughts?
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:16 PM
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Source considering, he must have been Tony SOprano's payote connect in Vegas to make such outlandish statements. The connections played it perfectly. They know the gem that they have, good for them.

Borel's future with this horse was never in doubt. WIth a few more questionable decisions, do they (nafzger and owners) go elsewhere? My thought would be NO, but who knows in this game. Thoughts?
what questionable decisions are you refering too?
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:26 PM
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what questionable decisions are you refering too?
After numerous replays, I still haven't seen any " let up" on Borail's part. It seems as if others have a different take on it. I've talked to people who wouldnt know their poo shoot from a hole in the ground, so their opinions were taken with a grain of salt. On the way home from the shore today, sports talk radio had a few "horsemen" who disagreed with Borel's peeking over his shoulder midstretch. I didn't see it as a problem, but given the margin of victory, every move will be heavily scrutinized. In summation, it was not a viewpoint that I shared, but for players and non players alike to have noticed it, I think its mention worthy. Your take?
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:30 PM
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After numerous replays, I still haven't seen any " let up" on Borail's part. It seems as if others have a different take on it. I've talked to people who wouldnt know their poo shoot from a hole in the ground, so their opinions were taken with a grain of salt. On the way home from the shore today, sports talk radio had a few "horsemen" who disagreed with Borel's peeking over his shoulder midstretch. I didn't see it as a problem, but given the margin of victory, every move will be heavily scrutinized. In summation, it was not a viewpoint that I shared, but for players and non players alike to have noticed it, I think its mention worthy. Your take?
Not only is it a non issue but there is zero % chance that Calvin will be replaced. The horse got tired in the last 1/16th. It is as simple as that.
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:41 PM
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Not only is it a non issue but there is zero % chance that Calvin will be replaced. The horse got tired in the last 1/16th. It is as simple as that.
People try to read too deep into things. Like you said, to make issues where there are none.

If they raced all of the triple crown races at the same track and the Preakness was at CD, does the outcome change if and when Borail takes his horse inside and scrapes paint? Excuse me for the left field question, my buddy that is here with me wants to know ... In other words, is SS a by-product of Churchill Downs "golden rail"??
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:59 PM
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Nobody is actually suggesting that Street Sense likes dirt better at Churchill than he does at Pimlico.....are they?
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:16 PM
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Pino's the jock that needs to go. he moved much too soon in the Preakness.

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Old 05-20-2007, 10:35 PM
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The only way I think Curlin could have won the Derby, is if Street Sense had drifted in a little sooner and a little sharper, and dropped Hard Spun or Pino.

Thus, a victory by DQ.

While it's very true that Curlin might have had an 8 length more difficult trip than Street Sense in the Derby....I have very strong doubts another rider would have made too much of a difference.
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