Calvin's ride

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Boy, third page of this meaningless thread...Calvin did NOTHING to effect the outcome, if Street Sense would have turned his head to look behind then you'd have a story. Why is it that after a great race with a fantastic finish people have to debate what some jock MAY have done wrong? Two horses, right now the best by far in their crop battled it out and Curlin got the head bob...all credit goes to Curlin and his connections. Sometimes you lose by the length of the stretch and sometimes a nose hair...it's called horse racing and there doesn't have to be someone to blame!

It was a great race, so quite naturally people on a horse racing forum may want to comb over every aspect of the race and debate it. Where is it written that we can only talk about things that effect the outcome?

Weren't you the one defending a thread about the possibility of contact between Street Sense and Hard Spun in the derby? In fact I think you started that thread and you said it was interesting even though you admitted that it had no effect on the outcome.

This time the outcome was very close so I feel there does exist some possibility that the look-back may have been costly. Doesn't mean I'm blaming anyone and it doesn't mean that I didn't thoroughly enjoy the race.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

It was a great race, so quite naturally people on a horse racing forum may want to comb over every aspect of the race and debate it. Where is it written that we can only talk about things that effect the outcome?

Weren't you the one defending a thread about the possibility of contact between Street Sense and Hard Spun in the derby? In fact I think you started that thread and you said it was interesting even though you admitted that it had no effect on the outcome.

This time the outcome was very close so I feel there does exist some possibility that the look-back may have been costly. Doesn't mean I'm blaming anyone and it doesn't mean that I didn't thoroughly enjoy the race.

And I'm not saying YOU did/do...by posting, I am giving my opinion! It always tickles me, people accuse me of attacking others for their opinions when all I'm doing is giving MY opinion...so, in fact, they are doing what they accuse me of doing! IN MY OPINION, this is a meaningless thread because Calvin did nothing to effect the race. When I posted the story about possible contact in the Derby, I stated from the beginning that I didn't think it was meaningful just interesting...this thread may be interesting but imo not meaningful either! It should be noted that yesterday during the ESPN/NBC coverage, the issue of contact was brought up several times and Pino was interviewed about it...at one point, he indicated that a foul claim WAS considered but he thought his horse just took a bad step. I still don't think the incident was meaningful but the networks apparently did!