Pletcher ... Same Old Story

Originally Posted by Revidere

Since when are races like the Oaks, the Florida Derby, The Haskell, Turf Classic, Beldame, and Champagne booby prizes? 90 + stakes races won last year. Sounds like you need someone to blame for your lousy selections.

One last question: Would you take a win in any one of those races?

Thanks for playing.

Which Pletcher assistant are you?

[Slewbopper]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Which Pletcher assistant are you?

Phil, he's the one that trained Pie O My...Go get your shine box

[Rupert Pupkin]

I have a question for you guys. If Pletcher trained his Derby horses differently this year, which Pletcher horse would have beaten Street Sense in the Derby? I don't think any of them. Street Sense ran huge in the Derby. I don't think any of Pletcher's horses could have beaten him, no matter what Pletcher would have done.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I have a question for you guys. If Pletcher trained his Derby horses differently this year, which Pletcher horse would have beaten Street Sense in the Derby? I don't think any of them. Street Sense ran huge in the Derby. I don't think any of Pletcher's horses could have beaten him, no matter what Pletcher would have done.

NONE OF THEM. He didn't have the horse to beat SS. I think he did well to keep as many of them healthy enough to get in the race.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I have a question for you guys. If Pletcher trained his Derby horses differently this year, which Pletcher horse would have beaten Street Sense in the Derby? I don't think any of them. Street Sense ran huge in the Derby. I don't think any of Pletcher's horses could have beaten him, no matter what Pletcher would have done.

But they at least could have beaten Imawildncrazyguy and Sedgefield, no?

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

But they at least could have beaten Imawildncrazyguy and Sedgefield, no?

That would of put me in to some winning super's

[2MinsToPost]

and Peyton Manning could not lead a team to a ................................

[Danzig]

well, since the derby is a done deal, any talk of what if's would be pure speculation.

BUT street sense certainly has not proven to be unbeatable.

nafzger, jones and asmussen did right by their horses, all three (not so much curlin imo) ran very well, and evidently their trainers knew what they were doing. of course asmussen got curlin late in the game, so having what he had to work with, all things considered curlin did well.

but for a guy to have 5 of the 20 starters, and fail so dismally.....something just isn't right there.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

But they at least could have beaten Imawildncrazyguy and Sedgefield, no?

Yes, that's true.

[ArlJim78]

Carl Nafzger has only taken three horses to the derby in his entire career, and has two wins to show for it.