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Old 05-09-2007, 08:32 AM
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Out of curiosity DrugS, how long are you going to keeping harping on the imaginary bad ride on Flower Alley? While obviously he didn't enjoy the cleverest of trips, he got absolutely drowned in the race, as well as his two subsequent efforts. Clearly it wasn't the trip that did him in. Horses get less than clever rides all the time....do you bet all these horses back even when they don't run a step?

You act as though it was Flower Alley's poorly timed ride in the Whitney that was responsible for his complete disintegration. Considering the subsequent events it was an inconsequential blip on his doomed career.
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Old 05-09-2007, 08:35 AM
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Flower Alley had a perfect ride in the Whitney
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Old 05-09-2007, 08:37 AM
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Flower Alley had a perfect ride in the Whitney

The " internet " for " I can't defend my position. "

Passive aggressive doesn't suit you.
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Old 05-09-2007, 08:44 AM
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The " internet " for " I can't defend my position. "
Please link me to where I said FA got a bad ride....

The next thing I know...you will be telling me that I thought Street Sense got a horrible ride in the Derby.
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Old 05-09-2007, 08:51 AM
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Please link me to where I said FA got a bad ride....

The next thing I know...you will be telling me that I thought Street Sense got a horrible ride in the Derby.


You're opinion on the Derby was formulated before it was run.

If Street Sense won it was because of a seeming perfect trip and if he lost it was because he was the phony you claimed he was. Yawn.
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:01 AM
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If Street Sense won it was because of a seeming perfect trip and if he lost it was because he was the phony you claimed he was. Yawn.
I really hope you don't believe that. If you do....I take great offense to that suggestion.
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:06 AM
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I really hope you don't believe that. If you do....I take great offense to that suggestion.

You've offered nothing to suggest otherwise.
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Old 05-09-2007, 08:41 AM
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While the whole point of my post was to drop the name Zhuge Liang....as I had to try and top my Gordon Bitner Hinckley homerun of a few days ago...I think you misunderstood everything I said about the race---and maybe have been saying all-along.

It was Jara who gave the bad ride--when he moved prematurely to engage Flower Alley....the only thing that compromised FA at all, is that he was eye-balling a good horse for a long time, and that led to him quiting badly late. He'd have finished better had Jara ridden the race correctly, though, maybe or maybe not managing a 3rd place finish.

While Flower Alley did run two horrible races after that....I still believe he and Invasor were both somewhat compromised by being hooked up for so long.
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Old 05-09-2007, 08:47 AM
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Flower Alley had a perfect ride in the Whitney
Do you really think it mattered?
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:08 AM
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Do you really think it mattered?
The perfect ride by JRV would have been to his benefit had Jara not moved prematurely to eye-ball him.

Had FA not been in an excellent early position...does Jara show the bad judgement, and move very early to negate the other joint-favorite from having a very good trip?
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:17 AM
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Flower Alley had a perfect ride in the Whitney
Imperfect ride or not, he got the same figure on my numbers for the Monmouth race and the Whitney, about 2 lengths slower than his BC Classic. He ran what he is, a decent but not great horse that got drowned by 3 really good horses in the '06 BC.
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Old 05-09-2007, 01:25 PM
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Before the race, Borel or not, I was expecting Street Sense to win on the outside in the stretch.

The inside is risky you can get stopped. The danger with the outside move is that it requires an earlier commitment and would leave SS with more to do in the lane, but I thought he was good enough. With ground loss and an earlier move it would have been extremely close between the top 2.

Borel made a great move in hindsight.



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