Curlin

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Curlin = not ready for 10 furlongs.

You think that Scat Daddy is? I'd take Curlin at ten furlongs way before I'd take Scat Daddy.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You think that Scat Daddy is? I'd take Curlin at ten furlongs way before I'd take Scat Daddy.

Not me... I'll admit I'm concerned about Scat Daddy getting that last 1/8th of a mile, but I think he'll be at the wire before Curlin.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Not me... I'll admit I'm concerned about Scat Daddy getting that last 1/8th of a mile, but I think he'll be at the wire before Curlin.

Fair enough. I don't think there's any median opinion on Curlin. Everyone seems to either think he'll win or get trounced.

[Slewbopper]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Fair enough. I don't think there's any median opinion on Curlin. Everyone seems to either think he'll win or get trounced.

I think it is between him and Street Sense.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You think that Scat Daddy is? I'd take Curlin at ten furlongs way before I'd take Scat Daddy.

........ i hear that, this horse along with S.S. look to be the 2 that will STILL be running ater 9 furlongs.

[MarkyD]

I think that Curlin does not deserve squat right now. If he wins the derby, then he gets my full respect.

To think of this guy being a ML favorite after 3 races, even if he has impressed.

I say this cause, SmartyJones destroyed opposition as a 2year old. 2-5 fav in the count fleet, no problem. Swept the Oaklawn meet and still went off at 5-1(ml 9/2).

So Curlin has no excuse to be anything under 8-1 IMO. If he wins good for him, but his odds have to be justified.

[byalip]

Anyone who doubts Curlin's ability better review the start of the AK Derby. Watch how he uses his tactical speed to establish his path. A lessor horse might not have had the turn of foot OR the guts to dominate the path he chose. Curlin easily could have been squeezed back if he was faint of heart...but he got his position.

Then he relaxed.

Then he turned it up a notch and took off.

He's my pick and has been since the Rebel. Too bad about the odds, but so far I have some hope...he's no better than #4 on most nat'l. handicapper's lists.

[pointman]

I'm glad that you mentioned tactical speed, that is something that I also think that this horse has and tactical speed wins a lot of races, including derbies. Of course, nothing is definitive until the race is drawn, but I think that if Curlin gets a descent post he has the tactical speed to get a clear trip and has shown he has enough to get home, don't see the extra furlong being a problem.

[jpops757]

Originally Posted by pointman

I'm glad that you mentioned tactical speed, that is something that I also think that this horse has and tactical speed wins a lot of races, including derbies. Of course, nothing is definitive until the race is drawn, but I think that if Curlin gets a descent post he has the tactical speed to get a clear trip and has shown he has enough to get home, don't see the extra furlong being a problem.

The only way his post will hurt him is f he gets wipped out comming out of the gate. His speed wil enable him to get position and relax.With all of these horses experience and maturity, none are more profesional on the track. Even with just three races he races more maturely than any have. The only way you can tell he only has had only three races is by looking at his record. If you look at his record all you can see is a profesional very good colt that noone has found a way to beat.

Originally Posted by jpops757

The only way his post will hurt him is f he gets wipped out comming out of the gate. His speed wil enable him to get position and relax.With all of these horses experience and maturity, none are more profesional on the track. Even with just three races he races more maturely than any have. The only way you can tell he only has had only three races is by looking at his record. If you look at his record all you can see is a profesional very good colt that noone has found a way to beat.

You are right. But he will be running against 19 horses this time and his odds are supposed to be around 4/1? That just does not work for me. Even if he does win, I would not feel bad about not betting him. This race has a number of other horses that can win imo and they will pay off much better. Just gotta try to find that horse. I have it narrowed to 4, and the longest odds will get the money.

I hope Curlin blows them away though. He does look very, very good. And I want to see a very good horse again. I mean can you imagine if he actually won the TC in stunning style, and then took on a once beaten Invasor in the BCC. Would be great for racing, in the short term anyway. What a day that would make. To dream...

Originally Posted by byalip

... He's my pick and has been since the Rebel. Too bad about the odds, but so far I have some hope...he's no better than #4 on most nat'l. handicapper's lists.

He seems to be no. 1 on the public's list, however.