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Old 04-20-2007, 02:37 PM
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With the exception of serial killers, child molesters, and a few others, I'm reluctant to call someone "evil," especially someone clearly exhibiting mental illness. And mental illness is a tough thing- I think there's a fallacy in thinking mental illnesses are "curable." I think some are treatable, or controllable, but I think most are probably not curable. And it's hard to force someone to take medication or go to therapy. I've had manic-depressive friends who start taking medication, become very high-functioning, lovely people, and then stop taking it because they don't feel they need it, or they prefer the way they felt before. I want to shake them and say, "How can you not see how much the medication was helping? What's wrong with you?" But they just don't process the world the way I do.

So I don't know- I guess it's human nature to want right away to find someone to blame, and figure out what the "lesson" from the experience is, but sometimes I think terrible, awful things happen because they do. Which is horrible, and breaks hearts and leaves people behind to grieve and wonder why. And it leaves us feeling out of control of our world, which is scary. Is there a purpose or meaning behind it? Maybe; I don't know. But I don't think it was because this kid was evil. Messed up, without a doubt. But not evil.
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Old 04-20-2007, 02:53 PM
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With the exception of serial killers, child molesters, and a few others, I'm reluctant to call someone "evil," especially someone clearly exhibiting mental illness. And mental illness is a tough thing- I think there's a fallacy in thinking mental illnesses are "curable." I think some are treatable, or controllable, but I think most are probably not curable. And it's hard to force someone to take medication or go to therapy. I've had manic-depressive friends who start taking medication, become very high-functioning, lovely people, and then stop taking it because they don't feel they need it, or they prefer the way they felt before. I want to shake them and say, "How can you not see how much the medication was helping? What's wrong with you?" But they just don't process the world the way I do.

So I don't know- I guess it's human nature to want right away to find someone to blame, and figure out what the "lesson" from the experience is, but sometimes I think terrible, awful things happen because they do. Which is horrible, and breaks hearts and leaves people behind to grieve and wonder why. And it leaves us feeling out of control of our world, which is scary. Is there a purpose or meaning behind it? Maybe; I don't know. But I don't think it was because this kid was evil. Messed up, without a doubt. But not evil.
O.K.,then just let nurses do it.If they don't help people very much(and I think in the great majority of cases they do not get results,)then put the doctors to use doing something else.Why have them riding a desk and giving out useless meds? A good nurse can do this......Right? Like I said ,they don't get results,but get paid like other doctors (that actually get something done.)
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Old 04-20-2007, 02:59 PM
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Well, how do we know for a fact that this kid wasn't evil? Just playing devil's advocate here.
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Old 04-20-2007, 03:09 PM
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Well, how do we know for a fact that this kid wasn't evil? Just playing devil's advocate here.
For the most part,what you call evil people(PSYCHPATHS,OR SOCIOPATHS) are highly manipulative individuals.They certainly do talk to people.They manipulate the hell out of them..Be great if they were shy.
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Old 04-20-2007, 03:30 PM
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if evil doesn't apply to someone who cold-bloodedly shoots down people, killing 32, then i don't suppose it would apply to anyone. i'd say knowing about his writing, his garbage he put together that morning and sent to nbc--well, i feel comfortable calling that evil-just like ted bundy was evil.
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Old 04-20-2007, 03:48 PM
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if evil doesn't apply to someone who cold-bloodedly shoots down people, killing 32, then i don't suppose it would apply to anyone. i'd say knowing about his writing, his garbage he put together that morning and sent to nbc--well, i feel comfortable calling that evil-just like ted bundy was evil.
Kinda how I saw it too, Deb... I'm not a psychiatrist, though.
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Still can't believe this guy was able to buy those hollow point bullets(legally.)
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