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Old 04-17-2007, 12:48 PM
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Best of Luck to them...
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:21 PM
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I figured about 5-10X that, even with a nothing pedigree.
Shows how much I know about auctions!
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:24 PM
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Instead of hitting the gavel on the sale someone should have loudly flushed a toilet.
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:30 PM
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So what is the deal with the trainer here? Is he the type that throws out win early types that run huge and then disappear or do his horses just run huge for him and then fizzle out if they go to someone else? If it is the former then couldn't that be a good purchase if you kept the horse with the same trainer? She'd have to be one of the favorites for the G3 on May 3rd which would make her valuable as a broodmare.
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:27 PM
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I figured about 5-10X that, even with a nothing pedigree.
Shows how much I know about auctions!
Assuming she is sound you'd figure whoever bought her will point to that 2 year old Stake at Churchill Derby week.

It only took Half Ours a year and a half to recover That same year a filly was 2nd...I don't think I've ever seen her entered in a race since. Pro Pink was 2nd last year and she has at least made it to the races a few times. Maybe this year a filly will win?
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:29 PM
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Assuming she is sound you'd figure whoever bought her will point to that 2 year old Stake at Churchill Derby week.

It only took Half Ours a year and a half to recover That same year a filly was 2nd...I don't think I've ever seen her entered in a race since. Pro Pink was 2nd last year and she has at least made it to the races a few times. Maybe this year a filly will win?
probably a dangerous assumption at this point...
I think you mean the three chimney's juvenille? Or was it re-named?
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:33 PM
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probably a dangerous assumption at this point...
I think you mean the three chimney's juvenille? Or was it re-named?
I think it was renamed last year when they moved it from the Derby undercard to the Thursday prior, but that is the one.
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:35 PM
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I think it was renamed last year when they moved it from the Derby undercard to the Thursday prior, but that is the one.
I thought that it might have been renamed...but I couldn't remember, thanks.
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:38 PM
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The only horse I can remember in the last several years to run in one of the 4.5F races at KEE then actually turn out to be something as an elder was Limehouse.

1 in about 1000 is not a very good track record. Good luck to them...
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The only horse I can remember in the last several years to run in one of the 4.5F races at KEE then actually turn out to be something as an elder was Limehouse.

1 in about 1000 is not a very good track record. Good luck to them...
Did any of these winners break their maidens previously at KEE?

http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.p...ld=view&id=658
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The only horse I can remember in the last several years to run in one of the 4.5F races at KEE then actually turn out to be something as an elder was Limehouse.

1 in about 1000 is not a very good track record. Good luck to them...

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I think it was renamed last year when they moved it from the Derby undercard to the Thursday prior, but that is the one.
I think they actually canceled the Three Chimney Juvenile and moved the G3 Kentucky Breeders' Cup Stakes to its place on the calendar.
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:43 PM
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According to bloodhorse, the horse didn't meet her reserve and was bought back (will still be trained by Ward). See quote below.

Van Meter indicated the filly would remain with trainer with Wesley Ward, who co-owns the filly with Robert Tanklage. "She's going to get some time off and I think we will see her again at Del Mar," he said
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$300K can actually be spent much worse in this game.

I believe Angel Island and Appealing Zophie were jointly the two fastest fillies to win going 4.5 at KEE last year....

One of them would become a Grade 1 winner, the other hasn't raced since.

That filly will really have her hands full with the freaky Sea of Pleasure on Derby week---if the new owners intend to run there.
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:42 PM
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Assuming she is sound you'd figure whoever bought her will point to that 2 year old Stake at Churchill Derby week.

It only took Half Ours a year and a half to recover That same year a filly was 2nd...I don't think I've ever seen her entered in a race since. Pro Pink was 2nd last year and she has at least made it to the races a few times. Maybe this year a filly will win?
The ill fated Gallant Secret was 2nd in 2004 (she was pulled up in the Deleware Oaks). The filly, Five Star Holding, was the one who was 2nd behind Half Ours.
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The ill fated Gallant Secret was 2nd in 2004 (she was pulled up in the Deleware Oaks). The filly, Five Star Holding, was the one who was 2nd behind Half Ours.
But at least Gallant Secret went on to dance lots of dances between that and her last race. She had a pretty good run.
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:32 PM
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I figured about 5-10X that, even with a nothing pedigree.
Shows how much I know about auctions!
The horse is a mess physically. She's extremely crooked. That's why she didn't go for more money.
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Old 04-17-2007, 06:14 PM
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The horse is a mess physically. She's extremely crooked. That's why she didn't go for more money.
Funny how some stumble and have trouble walking, but they can run. Go figure.
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:28 PM
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Did anyone else bother to read the charts from the card from Keeneland that day?

Some very, very fast times out of some very, very ordinary horses and fields.
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:36 AM
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The horse is a mess physically. She's extremely crooked. That's why she didn't go for more money.
Rupert, sometimes you must feel like it's shouting into the wind. Anyway, thanks for the insight.

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