Gomez on Wait A While

[golfer]

YES!! It would certainly make handicapping an easier proposition, and take the guesswork/insider information out of "trainer intent" Seriously, I don't mind losing if my horse is not as good as some others, or has a bad day, for whatever reason... but I do have a problem with a horse that gets a "no chance/no effort" trip. Unfortunately, I see that far too often, and my paranoia leads me to think that some insiders were privy to information that I was not.

See racing in Australia is different. In America we don't give a **** about the gambler. Oh that precious racehorse. Please don't whip him and try to get into the money...he could spontaneously combust!!

It's ridiculous and the connections should be suspended and fined. If I cared about the breeding aspect of the game i'd go to the nearest farm and watch the action. What these people are getting away with is fraud. Plain and simple.

Disclaimer: I did not bet the race but saw the replay.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

See racing in Australia is different. In America we don't give a **** about the gambler. Oh that precious racehorse. Please don't whip him and try to get into the money...he could spontaneously combust!!

It's ridiculous and the connections should be suspended and fined. If I cared about the breeding aspect of the game i'd go to the nearest farm and watch the action. What these people are getting away with is fraud. Plain and simple.

Disclaimer: I did not bet the race but saw the replay.

Like 90+% of the races out there are non-stakes races with the animals being treated exactly like you want. Why bet the stakes races if that is the way you want it to be? There needs to be somewhere that these owners can run their valuable horses without them being treated like they are nothing more than a vehicle to gamble on or else there is no reason for them to keep them on the track and out of the breeding shed.

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Like 90+% of the races out there are non-stakes races with the animals being treated exactly like you want. Why bet the stakes races if that is the way you want it to be? There needs to be somewhere that these owners can run their valuable horses without them being treated like they are nothing more than a vehicle to gamble on or else there is no reason for them to keep them on the track and out of the breeding shed.

There is somewhere they can run these valuable horses without using them too harshly. It's called the morning workout. It's fraudulent to enter them in a stakes race and not attempt to win the race or even place. Those pussies cost alot of people money yesterday.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

There is somewhere they can run these valuable horses without using them too harshly. It's called the morning workout. It's fraudulent to enter them in a stakes race and not attempt to win the race or even place. Those pussies cost alot of people money yesterday.

Oh great, just what I wanted, more top horses working and less racing. The Baffert approach.

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Oh great, just what I wanted, more top horses working and less racing. The Baffert approach.

Good point.

[docvegas.]

The horse was beat, and gomez would have PETA on his a$$.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by golfer

YES!! It would certainly make handicapping an easier proposition, and take the guesswork/insider information out of "trainer intent" Seriously, I don't mind losing if my horse is not as good as some others, or has a bad day, for whatever reason... but I do have a problem with a horse that gets a "no chance/no effort" trip. Unfortunately, I see that far too often, and my paranoia leads me to think that some insiders were privy to information that I was not.

All these restrictions might improve wagering a little bit but I doubt they would have more than a minimal effect on handle. I highly doubt anyone is quitting wagering because Gomez didn't abuse Wait a While a couple more times. The only effect it would have is to discourage trainers from entering their horses in anything but the biggest races. And that is the exact thing that this sport should be trying to avoid.