My opinion on Asmussen

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I say you're on to something here. Smells like Cajun home cookin to me.

Thats my point ArlJim. AFter listening to a very arrogant dissertation on Dutrow, you would think that a guy who said those things would have to come down hard on Asmussen.
I pride myself on objective analysis. There is no room for personal feelings in an objective argument.
Both Asmussen and Dutrow are high percentage, win at both the bottom level claiming ranks and in graded stakes, are huge off the claim or first time to them switch, and have been suspected of chicanery.
Personally even though I know one and not the other, I think both are outstanding at what they do and are using 21st century vet techniques, sheets to place their horses in spots, had a postive for mepivicaine, and are are both outstanding horsemen. I really see no way how that you can come down hard on one and defend the other. Unless of course you let the fact that you know and like one and not the other cloud your judgement.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Thats my point ArlJim. AFter listening to a very arrogant dissertation on Dutrow, you would think that a guy who said those things would have to come down hard on Asmussen.
I pride myself on objective analysis. There is no room for personal feelings in an objective argument.
Both Asmussen and Dutrow are high percentage, win at both the bottom level claiming ranks and in graded stakes, are huge off the claim or first time to them switch, and have been suspected of chicanery.
Personally even though I know one and not the other, I think both are outstanding at what they do and are using 21st century vet techniques, sheets to place their horses in spots, had a postive for mepivicaine, and are are both outstanding horsemen. I really see no way how that you can come down hard on one and defend the other. Unless of course you let the fact that you know and like one and not the other cloud your judgement.

hey mike hows tricks .....

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Thats my point ArlJim. AFter listening to a very arrogant dissertation on Dutrow, you would think that a guy who said those things would have to come down hard on Asmussen.
I pride myself on objective analysis. There is no room for personal feelings in an objective argument.
Both Asmussen and Dutrow are high percentage, win at both the bottom level claiming ranks and in graded stakes, are huge off the claim or first time to them switch, and have been suspected of chicanery.
Personally even though I know one and not the other, I think both are outstanding at what they do and are using 21st century vet techniques, sheets to place their horses in spots, had a postive for mepivicaine, and are are both outstanding horsemen. I really see no way how that you can come down hard on one and defend the other. Unless of course you let the fact that you know and like one and not the other cloud your judgement.

Yeah, I don't know either guy, just their public record and my own observations about their particular styles. I see them both as solid horsemen at the top of the game and factor that into my wagering strategy.
The action taken against Assmussen seems ridiculously harse.

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Yeah, I don't know either guy, just their public record and my own observations about their particular styles. I see them both as solid horsemen at the top of the game and factor that into my wagering strategy.
The action taken against Assmussen seems ridiculously harse.

I agree, the suspension is absolutely absurd.
I'm ok Hooves. Had a good friend, one of my best, pass away on Monday and I found out on Wednesday. Then the town where my grandmothers live in got flooded like you wouldnt believe. They are ok, up on hills, but wanted to check in and see if they needed anything.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

your a good man ...way to think of others ...sorry for your loss...now lets play some nags...

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

your a good man ...way to think of others ...sorry for your loss...now lets play some nags...

Yeah my friend was sick on and off a long time. Got to see him one last time last month when we met in Lake George and played the ponies all day long and talked. he had just moved back up here from Florida two months ago. I talked to him every day up to the end and I got to see him one last time so I have that peace that he didn't just go without me talking to him or seeing him. He loved the horses more than anything in the world and he'd want me to just be happy and nail a big one in his memory. He was the worst gambler who ever lived, never hit anything his whole life, but where he is he ain't losing any more photos!!!!

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Thats my point ArlJim. AFter listening to a very arrogant dissertation on Dutrow, you would think that a guy who said those things would have to come down hard on Asmussen.
I pride myself on objective analysis. There is no room for personal feelings in an objective argument.
Both Asmussen and Dutrow are high percentage, win at both the bottom level claiming ranks and in graded stakes, are huge off the claim or first time to them switch, and have been suspected of chicanery.
Personally even though I know one and not the other, I think both are outstanding at what they do and are using 21st century vet techniques, sheets to place their horses in spots, had a postive for mepivicaine, and are are both outstanding horsemen. I really see no way how that you can come down hard on one and defend the other. Unless of course you let the fact that you know and like one and not the other cloud your judgement.

That's not completely true mike, you have obvious favorites in the game and it shows when you post about them--not that there's anything wrong with that but it can and does cloud one's level of objectivity.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Thats my point ArlJim. AFter listening to a very arrogant dissertation on Dutrow, you would think that a guy who said those things would have to come down hard on Asmussen.
I pride myself on objective analysis. There is no room for personal feelings in an objective argument.
Both Asmussen and Dutrow are high percentage, win at both the bottom level claiming ranks and in graded stakes, are huge off the claim or first time to them switch, and have been suspected of chicanery.
Personally even though I know one and not the other, I think both are outstanding at what they do and are using 21st century vet techniques, sheets to place their horses in spots, had a postive for mepivicaine, and are are both outstanding horsemen. I really see no way how that you can come down hard on one and defend the other. Unless of course you let the fact that you know and like one and not the other cloud your judgement.

Oracle, Do you still think that Mepivicaine is used for dental work on horses? I asked one of my trainers about that and he started laughing. Horses are not like humans when it comes to dental work. Mepivicaine is not used on horses for dental work. Novacaine is not used either. Horses are given tranquilizers for dental work. When a horse tests positive for Mepivicaine, there is only one possible explanation: The horse was given a nerve-block in one of its legs. Every trainer knows that. Every vet knows that and every steward knows that. That is why the penalty is so severe for a Mepivicaine positive.