All charges being dropped

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

It was only of "great significance" to their community because she was Black. This should have been about a stripper's rape at a party, no more, no less.

There has been outrage aplenty for the DA, but deflecting the conversation solely towards him ignores the fact that Sharpton and those of his ilk race bait every chance they get....which is one of the most patently racist things one can do. This had nothing to do with her being Black. Her being Black did not cause the Duke guys to fake rape her. Rape should be of great significance to everyone of every color, but there was hardly any racial injustice involved in this case. And every time one of them frames what should be a horrific, yet colorless situation with us vs. them color fits, their credibility will further unravel.

Grits made a point of talking about the DA, because anyone following this case has been repulsed by his actions. But the fact remains that this was not a racial issue in the least, and because Sharpton and Jackson et al want to frame it as one...then let's do that, let's frame it as one. Now that it's been properly framed by these two "leaders" let's get back to them being wrong and not being held accountable for it. I don't suggest I am speaking for Grits or anyone else when I say that, but that's the very reason why this issue has to do with men like that. They **** on the floor, and now they're stepping in it and everybody's too ****ing afraid to call them out for it.

Brian,
As much as you may want to ignore the simple truth, this WAS about race! It involved a poor black woman and wealthy (at least as reported, I don't know how wealthy their families are) white college boys. You can't ignore the past when wealthy white "boys" used black women any way they wanted...obviously race was front and center here! Why on earth would you expect black leaders not to be involved??? I agree 100% that these boys were victims...but not of Jesse Jackson, they were victims of a corrupt DA. The DA played the "race card" and he should suffer the consequences but to expect black leaders to remain silent in the face of this is ridiculous! They demanded justice...and, this time at least, justice is being served! Had this all been "swept under the rug", the DA would have probably hung these poor kids on manufactured "evidence" ...exactly the way black men and women were railroaded for countless years...that's the irony here!!

[Cajungator26]

Somer,

If equality is what is being seeked, then we MUST treat each and every case the EXACT same. It shouldn't have mattered what color her skin was... I don't give a shiat if she was white, black, green, purple, red... pick a color! This is what I don't understand... how we can expect equality in this country when people insist upon treating cases like this differently because of the color of someone's skin???

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Somer,

If equality is what is being seeked, then we MUST treat each and every case the EXACT same. It shouldn't have mattered what color her skin was... I don't give a shiat if she was white, black, green, purple, red... pick a color! This is what I don't understand... how we can expect equality in this country when people insist upon treating cases like this differently because of the color of someone's skin???

The case should have been treated the same regardless of her skin color or the boys...the fact is it was the DA who treated it differently! Since he needed the votes of blacks, he played the race card early and often. Black leaders have a responsibility to demand justice in such a case and that they did...so why blame them instead of the white man who was responsible??? You know, all this "we're all the same" sounds pretty hollow to a people who were beaten, tortured, murdered and enslaved not that long ago. Folks seem to want the black community to accept that there is a level playing field when clearly there is not! True equality won't occur in this culture...for women, racial minorities or gays until those with the power to change things start walking the walk instead of spouting a bunch of mindless crap....the reason this case hit a sore spot in the black community should be clear. When folks who are discriminated against start to see real change then color, sex and other stuff won't matter...but expecting folks to trust that they will be treated fairly when they never have been...well, that won't work!

[saucon17]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

The case should have been treated the same regardless of her skin color or the boys...the fact is it was the DA who treated it differently! Since he needed the votes of blacks, he played the race card early and often. Black leaders have a responsibility to demand justice in such a case and that they did...so why blame them instead of the white man who was responsible??? You know, all this "we're all the same" sounds pretty hollow to a people who were beaten, tortured, murdered and enslaved not that long ago. Folks seem to want the black community to accept that there is a level playing field when clearly there is not! True equality won't occur in this culture...for women, racial minorities or gays until those with the power to change things start walking the walk instead of spouting a bunch of mindless crap....the reason this case hit a sore spot in the black community should be clear. When folks who are discriminated against start to see real change then color, sex and other stuff won't matter...but expecting folks to trust that they will be treated fairly when they never have been...well, that won't work!

The person who should be thrown under the bus is
Michael Nifong he jumped to conclusions about this
case and he ruined the lives of many on the Duke
lacrosse team.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Brian,
As much as you may want to ignore the simple truth, this WAS about race! It involved a poor black woman and wealthy (at least as reported, I don't know how wealthy their families are) white college boys. You can't ignore the past when wealthy white "boys" used black women any way they wanted...obviously race was front and center here! Why on earth would you expect black leaders not to be involved??? I agree 100% that these boys were victims...but not of Jesse Jackson, they were victims of a corrupt DA. The DA played the "race card" and he should suffer the consequences but to expect black leaders to remain silent in the face of this is ridiculous! They demanded justice...and, this time at least, justice is being served! Had this all been "swept under the rug", the DA would have probably hung these poor kids on manufactured "evidence" ...exactly the way black men and women were railroaded for countless years...that's the irony here!!

So this case and OJ's acquittal are retribution for countless years of injustice??? It figures!

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

So this case and OJ's acquittal are retribution for countless years of injustice??? It figures!

That doesn't deserve a response...I won't say what I probably should.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

That doesn't deserve a response...I won't say what I probably should.

You didn't need a response...you already made it in your treatise!