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Old 04-10-2007, 11:01 AM
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I agree...and steppenwolfer was probably a bad example.
I can't fault most trainers to take a shot when their horse is in good form, and Bob and John did win the Wood, so it wasn't like he was a complete fluke.

But Going Wild 2 years ago is probably a better example. The horse was in horrible form and was in no way, shape or form going to be a factor that day.
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:08 AM
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I agree...and steppenwolfer was probably a bad example.
I can't fault most trainers to take a shot when their horse is in good form, and Bob and John did win the Wood, so it wasn't like he was a complete fluke.

But Going Wild 2 years ago is probably a better example. The horse was in horrible form and was in no way, shape or form going to be a factor that day.
I bet you never thought you'd see Going Wild winning a race after the Derby before Steppenwolfer did!
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Old 04-10-2007, 12:15 PM
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I thought I heard that Jack Junior was going to the derby for sure. Anybody else heard that?
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Old 04-10-2007, 03:23 PM
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I thought I heard that Jack Junior was going to the derby for sure. Anybody else heard that?
I think it's the opposite. . .
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Old 04-10-2007, 04:39 PM
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How great would it be for Skip Code to win the Derby?

Go Skippy!
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Old 04-11-2007, 07:31 AM
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How great would it be for Skip Code to win the Derby?

Go Skippy!




YOU BETCHA!!!!
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:28 AM
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Sightseeing to skip derby and only go to the Preakness "if it looks like the derby wasn't a good race" and the preakness "will be one of those 6-7 horse fields" according to the TDN...
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:42 PM
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Birdbirdistheword is supposedly going to have a go at a turf career instead per Bloodhorse. They basically said they're out though. Not sure where they're looking but it ain't on dirt at Churchill in May apparently.
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Old 04-15-2007, 07:45 AM
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Maybe it doesn't matter but Great Hunter is listed twice. Since Chelokee is left out in the cold, Zanjero is my super secret hopefully 30-1 include in the exacta.

I just weighed him down big time
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Old 04-15-2007, 09:16 AM
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Maybe it doesn't matter but Great Hunter is listed twice. Since Chelokee is left out in the cold, Zanjero is my super secret hopefully 30-1 include in the exacta.

I just weighed him down big time

I think Chelokee will get in, he's sitting 22nd and There are a few in the top 20 that are unlikely. I dont know about Officer Rocket, but he didnt run that well yesterday maybe they will hold off on the derby. Who knows about Song in May also, so I think Chelokee will make it when all said and done.
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Old 04-16-2007, 01:13 PM
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I can't see how Liquidity can be considered, stamina is an issue with him.
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Old 04-16-2007, 07:08 PM
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I'm starting to wonder about his chances in three weeks. I could see him hitting the board. He seems like an honest sort who should be running hard at the end.

If Chelokee were to be entered, he would be one of the "wiseguy" horses. After hearing about his Florida Derby run before seeing it, I thought that his trip was not as terrible as it was made out to be. I'd toss him if he were entered in the Derby.

What you did not see is his race prior to the Florida Derby. He had even a worse trip and yet re-rallied to win it in style. In that ALW race at gulfstream he was bumped pretty good and shuffled from 5th to last at the half mile pole and made a nice rally weaving in-n-out to win it. That was the reason I made a huge win/place bet on him in the Florida Derby. He was tucked nicely inside and was waiting for some room he never could get. He still switched to the outside to make a nice effort to come third.
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Old 04-15-2007, 08:37 AM
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1 Street Sense (Street Cry) $1,532,000
2 Scat Daddy (Johannesburg) $1,308,500
3 Circular Quay (ThunderGulch) $1,116,134
4 Curlin (Smart Strike) $780,000
5 Great Hunter (Aptitude) $730,000
6 Nobiz Like Shobiz (Albert the Great) $778,500
7 Stormello (Stormy Atlantic) $642,900
8 Dominican (El Corredor) $633,848
9 Tiago (Pleasant Tap) $450,000
10 Cowtown Cat (Distorted Humor) $437,253
11 Hard Spun (Danzig) $360,000
12 Zanjero (Cherokee Run) $205,000
X Xchanger (Exchange Rate) $202,890
13 Storm in May
14 Any Given Saturday (Distorted Humor) $177,969
15 Liquidity (Tiznow) $161,200
16 Teuflesberg (Johannesburg) $160,440
17 Officer Rocket (GB) (Officer) $153,260
18 Cobalt Blue (Golden Missile) $150,000
19 Sam P. (Cat Thief) $146,500
X Skip Code (Skip Away) $133,185
X Sedgefield (Smart Strike) $127,500

20 Bwana Bull (Holy Bull) $125,000

Ketchikan (Mr. Greeley) $120,000
Chelokee (Cherokee Run) $100,000
Reporting for Duty (Deputy Commander) $100,000
Belgravia (Mr. Greeley) $86,490
Bold Start (Jump Start) $85,000
Joe Got Even (Stephen Got Even) $56,440
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Old 04-15-2007, 11:31 AM
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1 Street Sense (Street Cry) $1,532,000
2 Scat Daddy (Johannesburg) $1,308,500
3 Circular Quay (ThunderGulch) $1,116,134
4 Curlin (Smart Strike) $780,000
5 Great Hunter (Aptitude) $730,000
6 Nobiz Like Shobiz (Albert the Great) $778,500
7 Stormello (Stormy Atlantic) $642,900
8 Dominican (El Corredor) $633,848
9 Tiago (Pleasant Tap) $450,000
10 Cowtown Cat (Distorted Humor) $437,253
11 Hard Spun (Danzig) $360,000
12 Zanjero (Cherokee Run) $205,000
X Xchanger (Exchange Rate) $202,890
13 Storm in May
14 Any Given Saturday (Distorted Humor) $177,969
15 Liquidity (Tiznow) $161,200
16 Teuflesberg (Johannesburg) $160,440
17 Officer Rocket (GB) (Officer) $153,260
18 Cobalt Blue (Golden Missile) $150,000
19 Sam P. (Cat Thief) $146,500
X Skip Code (Skip Away) $133,185
X Sedgefield (Smart Strike) $127,500

20 Bwana Bull (Holy Bull) $125,000

Ketchikan (Mr. Greeley) $120,000
Chelokee (Cherokee Run) $100,000
Reporting for Duty (Deputy Commander) $100,000
Belgravia (Mr. Greeley) $86,490
Bold Start (Jump Start) $85,000
Joe Got Even (Stephen Got Even) $56,440
Hey Steve, what did you hear about Sedgefield that caused you to cross him out? Last I heard they were considering trying to get him in yet another race to get enough earnings to get in. Now that they have enough I'd assume they'll just train up to the Derby. Was there something on ATRAB I missed?
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Old 04-16-2007, 01:47 PM
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NO--Teuf and Sedg both may get into the Derby NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:10 PM
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NO--Teuf and Sedg both may get into the Derby NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That is good, auto tossed and some moran's will be using them, both will be 99/1 though
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