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Old 04-08-2007, 08:49 AM
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Last years crop recieved positive reviews from me for several months leading into the Derby. This years has recieved almost the opposite, and deservingly so. .

Oh sorry, I apologize. I didnt realize they failed your review. That settles it, I guess.
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Old 04-08-2007, 10:39 AM
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No mention of Any Given Sat. I do not think he ran that bad yesterday. I thought Pletcher brought him back too soon and he was three wide the whole race. Everyone gave up on Bluegrass Cat last year, because he threw in a clunker. Then he runs second to Barbaro in the derby. AGS ran well yesterday for a horse that ran a huge race 3 weeks ago and was 3 wide the whole way and now he is getting no mention at all as a contender. Do not know if he can beat Great Hunter and Street Sense, but I do not think he is an automatic toss either.
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Old 04-08-2007, 10:44 AM
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No mention of Any Given Sat. I do not think he ran that bad yesterday. I thought Pletcher brought him back too soon and he was three wide the whole race. Everyone gave up on Bluegrass Cat last year, because he threw in a clunker. Then he runs second to Barbaro in the derby. AGS ran well yesterday for a horse that ran a huge race 3 weeks ago and was 3 wide the whole way and now he is getting no mention at all as a contender. Do not know if he can beat Great Hunter and Street Sense, but I do not think he is an automatic toss either.
Could come 2nd(ANY GIVEN SATURDAY, this animal can show up and lose a stretch battle.)He won't win.He can't win a stretch battle.It is kind of a priority(to be able to win a fight.)
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Old 04-08-2007, 11:00 AM
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AGS lost a stretch battle by a head bob. A nose. He didn't exactly blink when looked in the eye. I like his chances better for the derby now with an extra week than I did going in off 3 weeks from the Bluegrass. I don't believe for a minute that he was primed for the win yesterday. No Biz might break out in the Derby but I won't be betting on him.
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Old 04-08-2007, 11:19 AM
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AGS lost a stretch battle by a head bob.
TWICE HE GOT BEAT,BECAUSE HE COULDN'T WIN A FIGHT.You want to see him do it a 3rd time? I wouldn't be surprised if Pletcher revives the horse for the Derby,and he loses another close fight.He does not have anything extra to call on against a tough horse in a fight.Yes,he got beat by good ones.So f'n what.Good ones line up again.So,he will at best get 2nd.Horses that lose stretch battles are not good win plays against the same damn quality he got beat by.He is pretty small anyways(comparatively.)Have you not noticed his little Arabian head? That's yet another reason he can't win a photo.Many things against this one.Use him 2nd-4th.I agree that Pletcher will get him rejuvenated enough to contend for the minor placings.
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Old 04-08-2007, 11:24 AM
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3rd time might be the charm. Small head loses a photo..c'mon.
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Old 04-08-2007, 07:22 PM
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TWICE HE GOT BEAT,BECAUSE HE COULDN'T WIN A FIGHT.You want to see him do it a 3rd time? .

Third time was yesterday, although in fairness to him he was very wide on turn one. But if you watch it, just before he hit the wall, he sort of flinched. He certainly did this vs Tiz Wonderful and looking at the Fl race, I think he did it as well although have to look at it again.

good horse to hit the board. Not to win. But if it helps my argument toss him in there as another horse to possibily win.
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Old 04-08-2007, 10:53 AM
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Oh sorry, I apologize. I didnt realize they failed your review. That settles it, I guess.

It does for me.
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Old 04-08-2007, 11:08 AM
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Oh sorry, I apologize. I didnt realize they failed your review. That settles it, I guess.
I wouldn't sweat it.

The next time this guy offers an opinion before the race will be the first.
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Old 04-08-2007, 11:45 AM
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I wouldn't sweat it.

The next time this guy offers an opinion before the race will be the first.
I see DrugS's selections all the time and for what it's worth they are beyond terrific. Not only have I spent hours discussing races with him, but I have read many thorough pre-race discussions by him, and his opinion is first rate. I realize this means you have to take my word for it, and that's fine, but for whatever it's worth he's one of the finest handicappers I have ever met. Plus, his post race disections here are as good as they come, and they aren't jaded by betting results.

But even worse, you have set yourself up for being told by DrugS that you're just jealous that he's better looking than you. Don't believe him.
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:06 AM
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I see DrugS's selections all the time and for what it's worth they are beyond terrific. Not only have I spent hours discussing races with him, but I have read many thorough pre-race discussions by him, and his opinion is first rate. I realize this means you have to take my word for it, and that's fine, but for whatever it's worth he's one of the finest handicappers I have ever met. Plus, his post race disections here are as good as they come, and they aren't jaded by betting results.

But even worse, you have set yourself up for being told by DrugS that you're just jealous that he's better looking than you. Don't believe him.
You forgot to mention that he is the Lord of TVG Fantasy.
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Old 04-08-2007, 02:37 PM
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I wouldn't sweat it.

The next time this guy offers an opinion before the race will be the first.
your joking right?
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Old 04-08-2007, 03:08 PM
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your joking right?
What makes you think that?

He did proclaim a month or so back that Rags to Riches would not win the Derby.
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Old 04-08-2007, 03:25 PM
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What makes you think that?

He did proclaim a month or so back that Rags to Riches would not win the Derby.
well he gave me christmas kid 3 hours before the race was run yesterday.....not like he is on here talking about his monster pick 4 score or anything, which...........well you dont want to know and i dont need to redboard for someone else
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Old 04-08-2007, 05:10 PM
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I've been on Curlin's bandwagon but beating up a dismal field at only 7f doesn't seal the deal.
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Old 04-08-2007, 07:19 PM
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I wouldn't sweat it.

The next time this guy offers an opinion before the race will be the first.
Ive offered many opinions on the Pace discussion board. Send me a PM if you want to know my handle there.

What diff does it make anyway? I am giving you my opinion on this years crop. If I'm wrong show me...
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