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Old 04-05-2007, 10:33 AM
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Honestly, I like AGS, but I want to see him run big off of the "fake" dirt. But I do like him. If he can take to the real dirt, I think he is a very nice horse.

I do like No Biz too. I believe he is going to be my pick in this race.
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:40 AM
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I've loved this horse since the day he opened his little horsie eyes and said, "Hello world, I am No Biz!!"

I feel sorry for his competition. They're going to be so jealous that he has balls in his ears and they don't. What an outstanding, historic day it's going to be when he wins the Wood by over 20 lengths. Whoda thunk that all it took to get this magnificent horse in the winners circle is some comfy balls in the ears to drown out all of the negativity?
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:52 AM
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I've loved this horse since the day he opened his little horsie eyes and said, "Hello world, I am No Biz!!"

I feel sorry for his competition. They're going to be so jealous that he has balls in his ears and they don't. What an outstanding, historic day it's going to be when he wins the Wood by over 20 lengths. Whoda thunk that all it took to get this magnificent horse in the winners circle is some comfy balls in the ears to drown out all of the negativity?
LOLOLOL

I wonder if Tagg's gonna add the popsicle sticks or tongue depressors and surgical tape to keep all those cotton balls in place. Like my vet does when dogs have their ears trimmed.

No Biz'll have a hard time pinnin' those boys, if he gets into a stretch duel.
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Old 04-05-2007, 11:40 AM
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I wonder if Tagg's gonna add the popsicle sticks or tongue depressors and surgical tape to keep all those cotton balls in place. Like my vet does when dogs have their ears trimmed.

No Biz'll have a hard time pinnin' those boys, if he gets into a stretch duel.
........ just break out the jack van berg gate dancer ear muffs......gate dancer looked AWESOME with those bad boys on.
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Old 04-05-2007, 01:38 PM
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I've loved this horse since the day he opened his little horsie eyes and said, "Hello world, I am No Biz!!"

I feel sorry for his competition. They're going to be so jealous that he has balls in his ears and they don't. What an outstanding, historic day it's going to be when he wins the Wood by over 20 lengths. Whoda thunk that all it took to get this magnificent horse in the winners circle is some comfy balls in the ears to drown out all of the negativity?
well ive got you beat there, i still remember the day albert the great climbed up on nightstorm and created noshow like bizshow.
i said to myself: "self, if they give that boy some cotton balls to stick in his ears, he is going to win himself the wood memorial someday."
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:15 PM
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Acutally the best thing to put in his ears for the noise is tampons. Tha way there is a string incase they get to far down in the ear.It works for my barrel horses that go crazy in indoor arenas. And alot of ropers use them for there horses at the National Finals. Try having a spooky horse at the NRF in Vegas. If it can work for them its gotta work for NoBiz. The NRF crowd is just about like the Derby crowd.
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:18 PM
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Acutally the best thing to put in his ears for the noise is tampons. Tha way there is a string incase they get to far down in the ear.It works for my barrel horses that go crazy in indoor arenas. And alot of ropers use them for there horses at the National Finals. Try having a spooky horse at the NRF in Vegas. If it can work for them its gotta work for NoBiz. The NRF crowd is just about like the Derby crowd.
I did the same thing with my horse a few times...

Occasionally, the string hanging out can bother a horse with sensitive ears, though.
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:27 PM
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Any truth to the rumors I've been reading today that Tagg is planning on running Nobiz back in the Excelsior because "everyone knows that a 20 length blowout win does nothing for a horse's foundation?"
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Old 04-05-2007, 03:04 PM
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Old 04-05-2007, 03:06 PM
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I agree with NTamm. Nobiz is a very nice horse, and certainly still on a relatively short list of actual Derby contenders, but so far he has not lived up to the hype, and has yet to run a fast race. How long can we keep blaming his bad habits?

While obviously he can win Saturday, I do not feel he is as good as Any Given Saturday, and I also expect Summer Doldrums to put in a very good effort.
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Old 04-05-2007, 03:08 PM
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While obviously he can win Saturday, I do not feel he is as good as Any Given Saturday, and I also expect Summer Doldrums to put in a very good effort.
I think that is your tri right there. Not going to pay much, but I think that is what the tri is going to be.
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Old 04-05-2007, 03:09 PM
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I think that is your tri right there. Not going to pay much, but I think that is what the tri is going to be.
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Old 04-05-2007, 03:23 PM
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I agree with NTamm. Nobiz is a very nice horse, and certainly still on a relatively short list of actual Derby contenders, but so far he has not lived up to the hype, and has yet to run a fast race. How long can we keep blaming his bad habits?

While obviously he can win Saturday, I do not feel he is as good as Any Given Saturday, and I also expect Summer Doldrums to put in a very good effort.
Obviously we see the main contenders the same way, so what I'm wondering is what you think the blinkers will do to Nobiz as far as the pace. Do you think they focus him so much in the early going that he pulls Cornelio all the way up to the lead. I ask because since AGS spent half the Kentucky Jockey Club pulling Bejarano up to the lead he has rated very nicely in his last two, working out great stalking trips. I'm just wondering if a lot of the knowledgeable people here think the blinkers will relax Nobiz a lot or what.

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Old 04-05-2007, 03:51 PM
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Obviously we see the main contenders the same way, so what I'm wondering is what you think the blinkers will do to Nobiz as far as the pace. Do you think they focus him so much in the early going that he pulls Cornelio all the way up to the lead. I ask because since AGS spent half the Kentucky Jockey Club pulling Bejarano up to the lead he has rated very nicely in his last two, working out great stalking trips. I'm just wondering if a lot of the knowledgeable people here think the blinkers will relax Nobiz a lot or what.

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Take a look at the Remsen where Nobiz won. He finished along the rail and did not appear to lug in or out or do anything like that. Could the rail be a guide for him? If so maybe he doesnt need the blinkers on the rail.

What is the general feeling about the inside speed? Do jocks want to be able to see where the other front runners are? WOuld it affect NoBiz not being able to see the others?
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Old 04-06-2007, 10:36 AM
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I agree with NTamm. Nobiz is a very nice horse, and certainly still on a relatively short list of actual Derby contenders, but so far he has not lived up to the hype, and has yet to run a fast race. How long can we keep blaming his bad habits?

While obviously he can win Saturday, I do not feel he is as good as Any Given Saturday, and I also expect Summer Doldrums to put in a very good effort.
I agree. Thus far Nobiz has been one of those horses that always seems to show just enough to give his supporters something to feel good about (i.e. the way he seemed to re-rally at Scat Daddy after that one passed him in the FOY) but he never actually turns in a huge performance.
He is my pick for this race, but if he had a different trainer I think I would have given up on him awhile ago. He seems talented and I guess I just keep trusting that Tagg will find away to turn that talent into a big race.
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Old 04-06-2007, 11:08 AM
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I agree. Thus far Nobiz has been one of those horses that always seems to show just enough to give his supporters something to feel good about (i.e. the way he seemed to re-rally at Scat Daddy after that one passed him in the FOY) but he never actually turns in a huge performance.
He is my pick for this race, but if he had a different trainer I think I would have given up on him awhile ago. He seems talented and I guess I just keep trusting that Tagg will find away to turn that talent into a big race.
And this is the point. The horse has shown moments of immense talent. You dont give up on a horse like this. The upside is huge. He clearly does not have the racing know how of Street Sense or Great Hunter. I would have to put Scat Daddy in that group also. These horses know what the game is about. If Nobiz learns he will be one to deal with.
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Old 04-06-2007, 08:47 PM
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I'm not saying Nobiz isn't a fine horse. But to say he will have a stretch dual with anyone on derby day is quite a stretch. After the cotton balls maybe they should try some glasses and a fake nose...the competition will never see him coming. He may very well win the Wood - but is that saying a lot looking at the field?
Actually yes it is. He is going in against two relatively good horses for this Derby year. Any Given Saturday (some think Pletchers best), and Summer Doldrums (training well; has has shown he can run). This is a better field than the Santa Anita. Jeez it seems like there is never a good field... Based on the comments I have read, the Blue Grass will be the only good field this year, and it has not been run yet. And then the fact that it is on poly will be bashed so that we will not have had any meaningful preps. It is amazing, bashing is so easy.
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well...if nobiz doesn't start picking those feet up, the cotton balls won't be the ones he'll be most concerned about!!!
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well...if nobiz doesn't start picking those feet up, the cotton balls won't be the ones he'll be most concerned about!!!
Are you saying he better run his balls off in the Wood??
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Are you saying he better run his balls off in the Wood??
yes...or they might be 'off' some other way.
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