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Old 04-02-2007, 02:30 PM
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It'd be nice if you guys could refrain from using the Arab comments. This could have been any owner doing this... JMO.
Caj, I don't care what he is, Arab, Japanese, American, Mexican Or Filapino, it doesn't matter, this one happened to be Arabian.......that's not the point.

And Linny does speak to this in her second post, "leaving something in the tank."

Part of this, is competition among themselves between the Shiekhs. Thoughts we are not privy to.
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:37 PM
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Caj, I don't care what he is, Arab, Japanese, American, Mexican Or Filapino, it doesn't matter, this one happened to be Arabian.......that's not the point.

And Linny does speak to this in her second post, "leaving something in the tank."

Part of this, is competition among themselves between the Shiekhs. Thoughts we are not privy to.
I think the point is that if the owner were a black guy, there is no way in hell you would have said, "Let the Black ride him himself next time."
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:41 PM
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I think the point is that if the owner were a black guy, there is no way in hell you would have said, "Let the Black ride him himself next time."
Oh Bull****, go back to handicapping Hawthorne or wherever you were, Brian.

I'm not listening to this drivel, as you so often call it.
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:43 PM
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Oh Bull****, go back to handicapping Hawthorne or wherever you were, Brian.

I'm not listening to this drivel, as you so often call it.
So you would say that? Good to know. I totally underestimated you.

Why on earth is it drivel to point out that you couldn't refrain from saying something that some found not wholly appropriate?

"Let the Arab...."

Awesome.
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:49 PM
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So you would say that? Good to know. I totally underestimated you.

Why on earth is it drivel to point out that you couldn't refrain from saying something that some found not wholly appropriate?

"Let the Arab...."

Awesome.
Brian, sorry sweetheart had the owner been French, I would have stated, "the Frenchman". Had the owner been English, "the Englishman or "the Brit". The owner an Australian, "the Aussie." The owner, a black African American, "the American."

You'd do better not attempting, in this particular case, to insult my intelligence.

That is why I find your comment to be drivel. Simply put, you are wrong.

Now, how good are you at apologizing?

Done here.
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:51 PM
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Brian, sorry sweetheart had the owner been French, I would have stated, "the Frenchman". Had the owner been English, "the Englishman or "the Brit". The owner an Australian, "the Aussie." The owner, a black African American, "the American."

You'd do better not attempting, in this particular case, to insult my intelligence.

That is why I find your comment to be drivel. Simply put, you are wrong.

Now, how good are you at apologizing?

Done here.
When I've done something wrong, very good. Too bad calling you out on your Arab comment does not qualify.

G'day "sweetheart."
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Old 04-02-2007, 03:01 PM
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Brian, sorry sweetheart had the owner been French, I would have stated, "the Frenchman". Had the owner been English, "the Englishman or "the Brit". The owner an Australian, "the Aussie." The owner, a black African American, "the American."

You'd do better not attempting, in this particular case, to insult my intelligence.

That is why I find your comment to be drivel. Simply put, you are wrong.

Now, how good are you at apologizing?

Done here.
Are you suggesting that brian should apologize for correctly calling you out on your use of racial slurs? I guess you are right Grits. If people don't want to be racist.....I guess that is okay.....as long as they apologize for it.
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Old 04-02-2007, 04:20 PM
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Brian, sorry sweetheart had the owner been French, I would have stated, "the Frenchman". Had the owner been English, "the Englishman or "the Brit". The owner an Australian, "the Aussie." The owner, a black African American, "the American."

You'd do better not attempting, in this particular case, to insult my intelligence.

That is why I find your comment to be drivel. Simply put, you are wrong.

Now, how good are you at apologizing?

Done here.
"The oil rich Arabian dressing down a 19 year old young man. All for WHAT?"

"I know that you know racing and pace, but the Arab's comments are wrong, he showed no grace, and that's unfortunate."

"Let the Arab ride Invasor next time, but then that'd be a bust 'cause he couldn't ride a hog thru a phone booth."

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Here is the problem Grits. I think you have a valid comment about the owner not showing grace or knowing how to ride a horse.

BUT, when you start referring to him as "Arab", and throwing in that he is "oil rich", these things have nothing to do with your points and make it appear that you are anti arab. I'm not saying you are by the way.

Where I'm from we don't talk like that, it just really sounds bad in my view and is not appropriate. You liken it to using Frenchman, Aussie, etc, but that seems strange to substitute Frenchman or Aussie in place of a known person with a name. It comes across as denigrating.

Also, an Arab is not from a particular country, its just a person from a country in the Arab speaking world so its not the same as saying Frenchman. It sounds as if you are unnecessarily trying to draw attention to his ethnicity. It would be like if the Sheikh referred to Jara as "the latino". He didn't, he called him by name.

Look I'm not accusing you of trying to be denigrating, from knowing you on here I really don't think that was your purpose. I am just saying that to myself and others, thats what it sounds like when someone talks like that.
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:44 PM
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I think the point is that if the owner were a black guy, there is no way in hell you would have said, "Let the Black ride him himself next time."
That's kind of the way I saw it too, but whatever...
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