The Ultimate "Undisclosed" Change

[Linny]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Seems 13 months after the fact is a little late to be worrying about it.

Seth over at Equidaily has a link on there today. Dominican was also a first time gelding when he won the Rushaway on Sat. Seth has been a supporter of getting this info into the paper and he has several comments on there today, as well as the link to Eng's piece from last year.

[jman5581]

I heard someone say Dominican was first-time gelding. I don't remember catching it in the PP's. Case in point...

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Linny

Seth over at Equidaily has a link on there today. Dominican was also a first time gelding when he won the Rushaway on Sat. Seth has been a supporter of getting this info into the paper and he has several comments on there today, as well as the link to Eng's piece from last year.

Even ESPN gave that announcement.

[jman5581]

Well, the PP's clearly say "g." but there's nothing to say he's first-time. How is it possible to get an L but not a G in the form? Somebody has to tell the Jockey Club the horse is on lasix, why shouldn't they also have to tell them the horse was just gelded? Seems perfectly logical to me... and you only have to report it once!!! Not like it's an ongoing thing.

[blackthroatedwind]

The issue is with the Jockey Club, if anybody, and racetracks need to be made more responsible for getting this information in a timely manner, like the f'n day it happens, and forwarding that information immediately to the Jockey club who will then disseminate it to Equibase and DRF. If that was done, then these groups could provide information as to when horses are running as new geldings.

Now, for example, when I see a horse listed as a gelding that has been off a month or more I check my pps from the last time it ran to see if it was listed as a colt. That's fine if the horse is in fact LISTED as a gelding, but as is often the case ( like Dominion Saturday ), the horse will be listed as a colt and MAYBE the tracks will get the information and announce it ( NY is pretty good about this and Florida is not ).

The bottom line is that it is yet another easily correctable problem in racing that the powers that be, whomever they are, has been dragging their feet on for decades.

[lemoncrush]

Good information.
I've only been playing and handicapping horses on a year-round basis for about 4 years, and always wanted to know how you discovered when a horse was a first time gelding.
I figured there was something I was missing in the racing form.
I agree it should be disclosed more prominently, as it seems to be a huge handicapping angle.