Top 5 Derby horses at this point

[jman5581]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

1. Street Sense
2. Notional
3. Great Hunter
4. Circular Quay
5. Sam P./Curlin

oops that was six

Sam!! I like this horse as well... I saw him win on closing day at CD this past November. He just seems like a scrappy, versatile horse. One of those types that if he can't win it you can at least put him underneath. But, I do think the way he is progressing he might peak in a little over a month, get a good trip and be a derby winner.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by jman5581

Sam!! I like this horse as well... I saw him win on closing day at CD this past November. He just seems like a scrappy, versatile horse. One of those types that if he can't win it you can at least put him underneath. But, I do think the way he is progressing he might peak in a little over a month, get a good trip and be a derby winner.

With the way he runs, I love that he's going to the Illinois Derby too.

He seems to be one of those horse who just can't quite seem to get the job done, but grinds and grinds, a style that can be effective in the Derby.

Hmmmm, grinds. Can't get the job done in preps. Still will get enough earnings to get in.

Giacomo Redux?!

[mclem10011]

1. Street Sense
2. Circular Quay
3. Great Hunter
4. Nobiz Like Shobiz
5. Notional
Sleepers in no particular order
Zanjero, Hard Spun, Adore The Gold, Any Given Saturday, Rags to Riches
Extremely hard to narrow down, i could throw 10 more in there easy! More preps to come, jockey decisions, of course the possibility of injuries (hope not), lots of intrigue still to play itself out in the next 6 weeks! Love this time of year!

[Samarta]

Street Sense
NoBiz
Notional
Curlin
Ravel

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Great Hunter
Circular Quay
Ravel
Street Sense
Scat Daddy

"Sleepers"
SAM P.
HARD SPUN
KING OF THE ROXY
RAGS TO RICHES???

Street Sense (even if he would have lost by the nose)
Nobiz
Great Hunter
Scat Daddy
Circular Quay

[Cajungator26]

1.) Scat Daddy
2.) Hard Spun
3.) Ketchikan
4.) Any Given Saturday
5.) Zanjero

Some others I like:

Street Sense
Stormello
Bwana Bull
Liquidity
Nobiz Like Shobiz

Still too far away to determine...

[pdrift1]

nobizlikeshowbiz
street sense
circular quay
any given saturday
ravel

[Lava]

street sense
Circular Quay
Rags to Riches
Great Hunter
Chelokee

[2Hot4TV]

Ravel
Ravel
Ravel
Ravel
Ravel

[Sightseek]

If the race was today:
1 - 2. Any Given Saturday / Street Sense
3. Great Hunter
4. Circular Quay
5. Curlin


Exacta/tri fillers at a price: Officer Rocket/Delightful Kiss

[King Glorious]

Only two horses have a chance to win the Derby. The exacta will be Notional and Circular Quay. Haven't decided the order but they are sure to be 1-2. It's as much a lock as Smarty and Lion Heart were going in in 2004. The sleepers are Curlin, Rags to Riches, and Scat Daddy. No others matter.

The Tampa Derby was a nice race. But I predict that it was so hard on those two that one or both will be out of the Derby. I believe one will be knocked out before the Derby and the other will be done for the year before the summer is over. Neither of these two horses finishes the summer.

[Withers]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Only two horses have a chance to win the Derby. The exacta will be Notional and Circular Quay. Haven't decided the order but they are sure to be 1-2. It's as much a lock as Smarty and Lion Heart were going in in 2004. The sleepers are Curlin, Rags to Riches, and Scat Daddy. No others matter.

The Tampa Derby was a nice race. But I predict that it was so hard on those two that one or both will be out of the Derby. I believe one will be knocked out before the Derby and the other will be done for the year before the summer is over. Neither of these two horses finishes the summer.

Hey KG, given how VERY right you've been before, I'll mark your words on CQ and Notional. With SJ, however, it was easy for even the idiots among us to see the talent from waaaaaay before the Rebel (although mind you, some TRUE idiots continued to insist he couldn't stay until he was in the gate at CD). With CQ, on the other hand, I've watched the LA Derby and I still couldn't get excited about him, 102 Beyer aside...

That said, I'll heed your opinion on these two...

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Withers

Hey KG, given how VERY right you've been before, I'll mark your words on CQ and Notional. With SJ, however, it was easy for even the idiots among us to see the talent from waaaaaay before the Rebel (although mind you, some TRUE idiots continued to insist he couldn't stay until he was in the gate at CD). With CQ, on the other hand, I've watched the LA Derby and I still couldn't get excited about him, 102 Beyer aside...

That said, I'll heed your opinion on these two...

I'm not sure how long you've been reading this forum, but as a public service to you let me just say that KG has been wrong on occaison. I would suggest some restraint before locking in a large derby exacta future wager, if there even is such a thing.

[Withers]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I'm not sure how long you've been reading this forum, but as a public service to you let me just say that KG has been wrong on occaison. I would suggest some restraint before locking in a large derby exacta future wager, if there even is such a thing.

Now don't you fret: my few pennies go nowhere near the racetrack, so I won't be running off to the windows anytime soon, on KG's or anyone else's advice I've merely been lurking on this and previous fora long enough to remember KG being quite a soothsayer back in the day...and defending SJ adamantly back when LOADS of people were still saying that he wouldn't run worth a dime against non-Oaklawn competition or past a mile...Has he been wrong since? No doubt. Still, credit where credit is due, and I'm still waiting for him to correctly pick the next Derby winner again already by February (ok, so he's running a bit late if he's right)

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

The exacta will be Notional and Circular Quay. Haven't decided the order but they are sure to be 1-2.

This makes so little sense that I don't really know why I am even responding to it but.....WTF? I have both of these horses in my top 5, but this kind of prediction makes absolutely no sense at all. I like CQ, but he will no doubt be running 20th down the backstretch so I wouldn't exactly call it a sure thing that he avoids all the traffic and gets in the exacta. What if these two draw posts 1 and 20. Might that have an effect?
What if Ravel or Great Hunter look extremely impressive in their next start? This is meaningless?
Etc. etc. etc.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Only two horses have a chance to win the Derby. The exacta will be Notional and Circular Quay. Haven't decided the order but they are sure to be 1-2. It's as much a lock as Smarty and Lion Heart were going in in 2004. The sleepers are Curlin, Rags to Riches, and Scat Daddy. No others matter.

The Tampa Derby was a nice race. But I predict that it was so hard on those two that one or both will be out of the Derby. I believe one will be knocked out before the Derby and the other will be done for the year before the summer is over. Neither of these two horses finishes the summer.

Oh my God.