"Inside" information & misguided public?

[outofthebox]

I doubt the trainer gave the wrong name to the clockers. the work in question was from the gate and all names are reported to the gate crew. And since this particular horse had had many trips to the gate for schooling im quite sure the identity of this horse was never in doubt. Now about a legitimate time of the workout i am not sure about, i was not there to verify it. But what from what i heard the work was much faster than posted. Not the first time its happened, wont be the last.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

I doubt the trainer gave the wrong name to the clockers. the work in question was from the gate and all names are reported to the gate crew. And since this particular horse had had many trips to the gate for schooling im quite sure the identity of this horse was never in doubt. Now about a legitimate time of the workout i am not sure about, i was not there to verify it. But what from what i heard the work was much faster than posted. Not the first time its happened, wont be the last.

I'll use one of your horses as a good example. You were enduring a horrible meet up at Saratoga ( sorry ) and your first timers were doing particularly poorly. However, these firsters were all dead on the board, each seemingly going off at 40-1 or more. Well, now we come to the final weekend, and the soon to return Kong's Revenge showed up. It was a typically strong looking Saturday maiden race at Saratoga and there was Kong's Revenge at 4-1 early in the betting. You don't need to hit me over the head. He drifted to 11-1, still a short price for your stable's Saratoga firsters, and aired.

[Seattleallstar]

there was a horse like that at Hawthorne today in a mdn clm race, it was unbridled something

[randallscott35]

The age old early money vs. late money. Tough to say some time which has more juice....I will say this, when I used to bet harness, literally 10 years ago, I wouldn't bet till 30 seconds to the race and see who got the late money. And it was much, much more accurate than the early money.

As for T-breds--I'd prefer early money if the pools are big enough. Obviously, Toga is one of those examples.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'll use one of your horses as a good example. You were enduring a horrible meet up at Saratoga ( sorry ) and your first timers were doing particularly poorly. However, these firsters were all dead on the board, each seemingly going off at 40-1 or more. Well, now we come to the final weekend, and the soon to return Kong's Revenge showed up. It was a typically strong looking Saturday maiden race at Saratoga and there was Kong's Revenge at 4-1 early in the betting. You don't need to hit me over the head. He drifted to 11-1, still a short price for your stable's Saratoga firsters, and aired.

Thank you for that outofthebox!!

[outofthebox]

Your 100% right. You have to know your barns, and definately watch the board and the action it takes. Kongs Revenge is a great example you posted. He wasnt working so particurly fast, but Cornelio V was just crazy about him everytime he worked him. That gave us alot of confidence that a top jockey really liked him..