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Old 03-10-2007, 12:06 PM
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The big money is in breeding, not in racing. The whole thing is upside down - racing only points out stallion prospects to these folks. When I started going racing, a stud career was something to do after the horse's main work, a racing career. I despise these big-buck breeders with a passion - their world-view has nearly ruined a great sport.
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Old 03-10-2007, 12:39 PM
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more on it from sportinglife..
Holy Roman Emperor clashed twice with Jim Bolger's Teofilo in his two-year-old season, the latest in a titanic battle for the Dewhurst at Newmarket in October.

His four wins included the Phoenix Stakes at the Curragh and the Grand Criterium at Longchamp.

O'Brien told PA Sport: "The lads and the boss had to try and replace him. We were shell-shocked about it here because Holy Roman Emperor was our best horse.

"He was the horse we were looking forward to for the Guineas and the St James's Palace.

"Paul Shanahan was here at 11.30am and the box came and picked him up at 11.50am. I spoke to the boss in between and the more I tried to persuade him not to retire him, the more he was convinced he had to retire him.

"The boss has his clients there and has to take care of them and obviously they are trying to replace like with like. It's a big shock to everyone here. We are a racing stable and everyone here does there best every day to make it happen.

"We have been very happy with him and we were looking forward to the Guineas. What can I say? It was really out of our hands and there was nothing we could do about it.

"It's a a bit like having a team getting ready for the premiership and your striker's soul being taken away. He was by far our best horse, the others have to make the jump still. He handled all types of ground, he ran in the Dewhurst on soft when we were nearly not going to run him. He got into traffic trouble on soft ground and still only just got beat and looked very unlucky.

""Obviously we were looking forward to going back for the Guineas and we thought he was ready made for the St James's Palace after that. That was made for him.

"It's a sickener, but it's a business decision. The lads have been in business a long time and have a lot of very important clients. He is a Danehill with a super physique, he has everything. With all the mares booked to George they felt they had to pull out all the stops for the people.

"He had speed, he had everything. He was well forward, we were going along lovely. Hopefully, some of the others will improve - we'll keep trying."

Neil Morrice, on-course representative for Stan James, sponsors of the Guineas, said: "The news from Ballydoyle about Holy Roman Emperor is a blow to the hordes who were looking forward to watching him lock horns with Teofilo again as a three-year-old.

"His defection has given the race a red-hot market leader in Teofilo, who is unlikely to meet Dutch Art until Guineas day."

Stan James 2000 Guineas, sponsors bet: 6-4 Teofilo, 7-1 Dutch Art, 12-1 Mount Nelson, 14-1 Strategic Prince, 16-1 Authorized, Eagle Mountain, 20-1 bar.

William Hill: 11-8 Teofilo, 8-1 Dutch Art, 12-1 Strategic Prince, Mount Nelson, 16-1 Authorized, Eagle Mountain, Adagio, 20-1 Duke Of Marmalade, Haatef, 25-1 Truly Royal, 33-1 ba
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Old 03-10-2007, 01:40 PM
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probably a dumb question but i'll ask. if GW is found to be infertile, would they return him to racing since he is still young?
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Old 03-10-2007, 01:50 PM
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probably a dumb question but i'll ask. if GW is found to be infertile, would they return him to racing since he is still young?
I just asked the same thing on another forum. They certainly could return him to racing but my guess is they'll send him to their hideaway for embarassments instead with Chekhov and The Green Monkey.
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Old 03-10-2007, 01:55 PM
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I just asked the same thing on another forum. They certainly could return him to racing but my guess is they'll send him to their hideaway for embarassments instead with Chekhov and The Green Monkey.
Id hardly call him an embarassment>he is a multiple champ!> hopefully, he'll come back racing either in Europe or in the States... alot more purse money available for him in the States..
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Old 03-10-2007, 02:03 PM
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What is the world coming to? One of our founding fathers can't be one?
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Old 03-10-2007, 02:21 PM
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Id hardly call him an embarassment>he is a multiple champ!> hopefully, he'll come back racing either in Europe or in the States... alot more purse money available for him in the States..
An embarassment in terms of being retired early to stud and being infertile. Not an embarassment in terms of on track accomplishments.
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Old 03-10-2007, 02:52 PM
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someone may correct me,but just read that if he is insured against this, the insurance company would then own him...
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Old 03-10-2007, 06:18 PM
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....They certainly could return him to racing but my guess is they'll send him to their hideaway for embarassments instead with Chekhov and The Green Monkey.
Hmmm. According to the Glasgow Daily Record, "HORSERACING mogul John Magnier is in talks to buy a Scottish firm who make sausage skins, it was rumoured yesterday."

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/money/b...name_page.html
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Old 03-10-2007, 06:42 PM
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If this expert puts the official stamp on George "Dubya's" infertility, will he be returned to racing?
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Old 03-10-2007, 08:01 PM
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They retired a newly turned 3YO? What is going on here??????
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Old 03-16-2007, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE=SniperSB23]I just asked the same thing on another forum. They certainly could return him to racing but my guess is they'll send him to their hideaway for embarassments instead with Chekhov and The Green Monkey.[/quote]
If we get Gorgeous George back and he rolls on the turf maybe it's something positive. He showed something the in BC classic so maybe this is just an extended freshening?
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